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JD:

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--- Quote from: Zombiedude on 03 Jan 2010, 00:52 ---You can't really deny that part Cheshire. When the french came to Canada they wanted otter skins because they were all the rage in Europe at the time.

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If by otter you mean beaver then yeah.  But that was after we (and everyone else) came for the fish. And after we had settled down we started using the Natives as slaves because importing them from Africa was way too expensive.

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otter and beaver, though perhaps my memory is a bit fuzzy

Ikrik:
It was all fur but beaver was the main one.  The Hudson Bay Company used a currency with the Natives called a Made Beaver.  So if you brought in a beaver pelt you got 1 MB.  And here's a nice little list of what other furs were worth

 3 martens         2 ordinary otters or 1 if exceptionally fine

        1 fox                 2 deerskins

        1 moose             1 lb castoreum

        1 bear cub         2 wolverines 

        10 pounds Goose Feathers

         8 pair Moose Hooves

So yeah, otters were worth quite a bit.  I have no idea what castoreum is though.

Chesire Cat:

--- Quote from: Wikipedia ---"Jared named his son Rowdy after his childhood hero Rowdy Roddy Piper." Bwahahaha.

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Alejandro Calderon is a totally epic name, like really fun to say out loud. Not epic like Martin Luther, Oliver Cromwell and Mark Antony mind you. I mean those dudes were total badasses who ruled without being a King/Emperor/Pope/Duke/Whatever. Not many Western historical leaders got the First Name, Last Name, no title treatment.

Oh and on this whole "North American Native American" pelt thing. Not really sure if you understood my point, and its too much work to make it more clear. But once again Ill state, its not really analogous to Avatar at all.

Inlander:
Maybe it's because it's almost one-thirty in the morning, but I'm disappointed this thread isn't called "Othertar".

Nodaisho:
I'm wondering what people have against the use of "unobtanium", opinion seems to be split between hating it and finding it funny. The way I saw it, it was a nod to people that know the term from the various sci-fi usage and the usage in fiction discussion, as an element with whatever properties you need it to have for the example. It explained everything you needed to know about it, it's incredibly valuable, they don't mention any material properties, so they won't come up in the movie, and for all we know, it isn't even really called unobtanium, it could just be what the '80s vintage coked-up executive IN SPACE called it.

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