Comic Discussion > QUESTIONABLE CONTENT
WCT: September 14-18, 2009
IanClark:
--- Quote from: Random832 on 16 Sep 2009, 08:54 ---Yeah, well, that's not how it happened at all. What happened was this, which prompted not-100%-baseless (sure, it didn't go anywhere, but it's also how it could have started if he had meant for such a thing to happen) Hanners/Tai speculation, which was transferred to this.
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That doesn't even make any sense. So what you're saying is that a lesbian comes onto her, she freaks out, and that somehow means she might be gay? As opposed to the obvious conclusion that it might mean absolutely nothing at all? Since I remember that only vaguely, I may have to give you the benefit of the doubt in terms of entering the public consciousness, but when you say "sure it didn't go anywhere" I have no idea how exactly you think it could've. And that's what pisses me off (and at risk of putting words into Jeph's mouth, I think what pisses him off too). It's not the speculation or the fantasies or idealizing, it's when people try to come up with bizarre ways it could actually happen that don't really make a damn bit of sense. Or more to the point the possibility that for some people it's not a matter of trying.
--- Quote from: Random832 on 16 Sep 2009, 08:54 ---And anyway, what do you mean "both characters' sexualities were questioned" - it's kind of a homophobic attitude to say that someone not (originally - obviously they are by now) established either way is to be automatically presumed straight and anyone who doesn't share that assumption is "questioning it".
Nobody ever gets denounced as creepy for thinking a character might be straight.
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I mean it was questioned excessively. A recent anonymous survey returned that 12.9% of women were bisexual (although strangely enough the question: "Are you bisexual?" returned far less), on top of the somewhat standard number of 10% homosexual. So there's a 22.9% chance of any woman with no established information about her sexuality liking girls (Marigold), and for one who has been established to like guys but not to not like girls, it's 12.9%. So, in either case, to assume they were probably straight isn't homophobia, it's statistics. The exact opposite of bias.
Also, creepy isn't my word, or the word I would use. Or the idea I'm trying to convey. Seriously, I don't mean to sound like a dick but look alive here.
--- Quote from: Random832 on 16 Sep 2009, 08:54 ---Why should that have settled it?
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What particular reason would one have for preferring man-on-man to other pairings other than sexual? I mean, anyone who's not themselves homophobic is of course capable of enjoying a well-written male-to-male romance, but enough to get a t-shirt just dedicated to it?
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--- Quote from: Kakareen on 15 Sep 2009, 18:01 ---I started shipping when they started reading and watching yaoi together, since I know of three lesbian couples that started out that way.
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There were people even at the time citing that, and not your made-up thing about her hygiene, as evidence for Marigold being a lesbian.
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That's not evidence at all though. Tons of people, gay straight or otherwise, get together watching anime together of any genre. Hell, that's what happened to me when I was 15. And even then, I started watching it with a group of three friends, all of whom were female, and none of them ever ended up hooking up with each other.
danman:
--- Quote from: Random832 on 16 Sep 2009, 08:54 ---
And anyway, what do you mean "both characters' sexualities were questioned" - it's kind of a homophobic attitude to say that someone not (originally - obviously they are by now) established either way is to be automatically presumed straight and anyone who doesn't share that assumption is "questioning it".
Nobody ever gets denounced as creepy for thinking a character might be straight.
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Deputy of common sense speaking (points if oyu get which comic i am referring to) :
Excuse me mister/mistress , but that is sound statistical reasoning , coming from the fact tha generally , more than 96% of populace are straight, therefore assuming that someone is LGB without any evidence is creepy - it is the sexual equivalent of paranoia and thinking everyone around must be a murderer - just look at how he bats the eyelashes!!.
Enough said
IanClark:
Kakareen, please let me know if I piss you off in any way, because yours is the exact point of view I'm trying not to bash or attack in any way, and based on some of the responses I'm getting, I might be failing slightly.
Shadic:
--- Quote from: Kakareen on 16 Sep 2009, 10:10 ---I guess if I'm completely honest, I'm grasping at straws because representations of gay persons, and gay relationships even more so, are rare. You wouldn't believe how overjoyed I was when Tai showed up. I was like, yay! We openly exist in this universe!
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...Dora? Sure, she's Bi, but she never hid that.
Kartoon Kween:
Man, I haven't been on the forums in forever. I forgot how much you guys like to talk!
...about a webcomic!
A-anyway, I ship Marigold/Hannelore in a completely platonic way. I mean, shipping them in a sexual way seems kind of pointless, seeing as both Marigold and Hannelore are not exactly sexually attractive. Who would want to imagine them having sex?! If they were hot, then I could understand!
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