Comic Discussion > QUESTIONABLE CONTENT
WCT: October 19-23, 2009
Delirium:
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Her: "One of my biggest pet peeves is when people pick and choose what they want from the Bible."
Me: "In what way? You mean historical anecdotes, like 'did God really rain fire and brimstone upon Sodom and Gommorah?', or moral teachings, like 'you should stone your kids if they speak back to you'. Or both?"
Her: "Anything. Everything."
Me: "So you agree that an unmarried woman who is raped should marry her rapist, as long as the rapist pays her father fifty shekels?"
Her: "Uh..."
Me: "How about you and I take a trip to Utah and take the sword to everyone living in Salt Lake City because they're all heathen Mormons?"
Her: <_<
Me: "Megan."
Her: "Yeah?"
Me: "Do you sacrifice two doves at your father's church every month you have your period?"
Her: "...no. I don't do that."
Me: "So why don't you do that? The Bible says that you should, and the Bible is God's word. I thought you were supposed to do what God told you to."
Her: (much thinking for a good few minutes before she says something along the lines of "Social values naturally change over time", which is officially the lamest response ever)
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This is hilarious in the light of the fact that conservative christians are emphatically opposed to "moral relativism" and believe that society should be run on a set of unchanging biblical principles.
ysth:
--- Quote from: Killbot on 23 Oct 2009, 00:58 ---How many times does it have to be said? homosexuals don't WANT to get married, they don't want that much commitment and responsibility (after all, variety is the spice of life. can't count how many times gay "friends" told me THAT line). They just want to redefine marriage as part of the greater plan to degrade, defile, and eventually destroy our Christian nation (or what's left of it). Mark my words, it will come to pass that a rainbow flag will fly over the White House, as surely as a crescent and star will fly over China.
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No, they want to get married.
Not sure what you mean be a rainbow flag. Some kind of symbol that we'll never enter wars of aggression again? Or that we foreswear our first-strike policy?
Personally, I'd rather the crescent and star over the White House than a confusing rainbow.
kraemandrummer:
--- Quote from: Killbot on 23 Oct 2009, 14:56 ---
--- Quote from: Random832 on 23 Oct 2009, 14:32 ---
--- Quote from: LeeC on 23 Oct 2009, 14:04 ---
--- Quote from: Killbot on 23 Oct 2009, 14:01 ---Believe it.
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with the use of this phrase you have officially lost all credibility and speaking privileges. Sorry naruto fans but saying this doesnt make you cool. better luck next time. :wink:
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Being a fundamentalist homophobic jerk didn't do this, but quoting Naruto did.
Can I frame this and make it a motivational poster with the tagline "Priorities"?
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Homophobic? I'm not the one claiming to speak for the gays!
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--- Quote from: Killbot on 23 Oct 2009, 14:01 ---Maurice's last name is Lester. Believe it.
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--- Quote from: Killbot on 23 Oct 2009, 12:47 ---
--- Quote from: Near Lurker on 23 Oct 2009, 08:46 ---Killbot, you were doing pretty well at first, but you lost me with the rant. Sorry, (wo)man. Keep pushing Poe's law!
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HAhahaha Poe's Law.
From Conservapedia (I know what you're thinking, and I'm only quoting from them because Wikipedia is only listing the "real" Poe's law currently, quite unusual for them to avoid such an easy potshot against people of faith): "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."
From that same page: "Poe's law is often used to mock conservatives and fundamentalists, based on its implicit assertion that fundamentalists and conservatives are so absurd as to be indistinguishable from parody. However, there is a fundamental flaw in this assertion. One might as well argue that genuine works of art are indistinguishable from cheap knockoffs, because some people are unable to distinguish between the two. Clearly, the cause of the mistake is not that the genuine article is no better than a mockery; rather, the cause of the mistake is that some people lack the critical thinking skills and/or experience to differentiate the two -- particularly in cases when an artist (or a parodist) goes to special efforts to emulate the genuine article."
I really think that says it all, wouldn't you agree?
--- Quote from: syrupykeyboard on 23 Oct 2009, 12:08 ---
--- Quote from: TheReaper on 23 Oct 2009, 11:47 ---I'm not going to quote what's-his-name, as I really don't want to, but one thing really stuck out:
Gay folk (according to kill-whatever) aren't committed enough to stay with one person for any length of time, but they're committed enough to collectively attempt to destroy marriage?
How does that even work?
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It doesn't.
"She's" not using logic.
"If you could reason with religious people, there would be no religious people."
Killbot: "Everything you know is wrong, black is white, up is down, and short is long, and everything you thought was so important doesn't matter; everything you know is wrong, just forget the words and sing along, all you need to understand is, everything you know is wrong!"
:laugh:
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Quoting Weird Al REALLY helps your case.
--- Quote from: TheReaper on 23 Oct 2009, 11:47 ---I'm not going to quote what's-his-name, as I really don't want to, but one thing really stuck out:
Gay folk (according to kill-whatever) aren't committed enough to stay with one person for any length of time, but they're committed enough to collectively attempt to destroy marriage?
How does that even work?
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they'll only commit to something if it's fun. that and they're directed by people with FAR more patience and capability for strategic thought.
--- Quote from: Ghanima Atreides on 23 Oct 2009, 06:39 ---Win! <3 I simply loved the recent developments, minus the various biblethumpers who all of a sudden decided to come out of the woodwork (funny how that never happened when Tai was banging two other girls or when people were busy shipping Hannelore with every possible female character.... :roll:). I can't wait for the celebration/wedding shenanigans!
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haven't been reading that long. For the record, I find lesbians to be as reprehensible as gays (perhaps even more so, from personal experience *shudder*)
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--- Quote from: Killbot on 23 Oct 2009, 03:58 ---
--- Quote from: akronnick on 23 Oct 2009, 01:24 ---Killbot, the only thing you know less about than the "will of God" is what homosexuals really want, so get your head out of Pat Robertson's ass and shut up already.
Do you no what will happen to this country when DOMA gets busted and all fifty states have to recognize gay marriage? NOT A DAMNED THING!!!
Do you know what effect two men or two women getting married has on everyone else? NOT A DAMNED THING!!!
--- Quote from: Shadic on 23 Oct 2009, 01:19 ---Okay, now it's just guaranteed that you're trolling. You turned up the paranoid crazy to 11.
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It's not even original Paranoia, he's just parroting the Pat Robertson's hate-spew.
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See, this is what I;m talking about. You are so thoroughly brainwashed that you accuse anyone who expresses an opinion you don't like of trolling or copying some random wacko. I assure you I am serious.
--- Quote from: Manix on 23 Oct 2009, 03:07 ---
--- Quote from: BeoPuppy on 23 Oct 2009, 01:33 ---
--- Quote from: Killbot on 23 Oct 2009, 00:58 ---[paranoid ravings]
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... you really are quite a heinous individual.
Where is this love your holy men preach so much about?
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Sadly, we are, in the end, human beings, with all human beings silly foibles and limitations. Many Christians seem to forget certain aspects of Christ's teaching, just as many open minded Liberals (such as can be found on this forum, please don't take that as an insult, but it's true) have no respect for the beliefs of those on the opposing political side, despite there self image being more tolerant and open mind and caring.
I myself fell that Christ would actually be rather upset at the things that have been done in his name in the years since his death. I myself feel that God and Christ want us to come to them by choice, not by force, which is why evil and the devil still exist. God is, in many ways liek a very strict fifties father. H eloves us, but like any parent, he occassionally has to let his stupid children to stupid things for them to learn. That's my opinion at least. Sadly, some of his children don't get the obvious message, or even want to..
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--- Quote from: BeoPuppy on 23 Oct 2009, 01:33 ---
--- Quote from: Killbot on 23 Oct 2009, 00:58 ---[paranoid ravings]
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... you really are quite a heinous individual.
Where is this love your holy men preach so much about?
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If you were christians you wouldn't be cutting parts out of the bible that offended you. Christians accept ALL the scripture as God-breathed.
--- Quote from: Jace on 23 Oct 2009, 01:40 ---Killbot, up high man!
o/
We gotta keep the christian nation strong. Gotta get rid of all those undesirables in our great country. First we should get rid of barack HUSSEIN obama before he indoctrinates our children into being socialists. After that it would be a logical step to remove all of the blacks, hispanics, asians and terrorists from the country. We can send them to Canada. Step three should clearly be appointing Sarah Palin as defense secretary, but not president, we don't really want to let the women have too much. In fact, we might need to make their votes count for whatever their husband's vote is. At that point, we should have a fairly strong, white nation, but we need to keep it christian, basically, we'll have only the jews in banking stay. The Catholics can stay too, but they can't attend our colleges, and they'll all have to go to separate schools. To top it off, anyone of the Muslim faith will be executed on sight by our Faith Patrols. We can reclaim the Christian Nation, but we'll need God's help.
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Galatians 3:28. Your attempt to satirize me fails. Please try again.
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--- Quote from: Killbot on 23 Oct 2009, 00:58 ---How many times does it have to be said? homosexuals don't WANT to get married, they don't want that much commitment and responsibility (after all, variety is the spice of life. can't count how many times gay "friends" told me THAT line). They just want to redefine marriage as part of the greater plan to degrade, defile, and eventually destroy our Christian nation (or what's left of it). Mark my words, it will come to pass that a rainbow flag will fly over the White House, as surely as a crescent and star will fly over China.
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--- Quote from: Killbot on 22 Oct 2009, 16:39 ---To those who are criticizing my and God's opinions, just remember that God can use the unrighteous as well as the righteous to His ends (as He did with Nebuchadnezzar in Jeremiah 27). You are giving Christ's church meaning by persecuting it.
You would not be opposing God's will were it not for God's will. Think about that. Perhaps you, like Paul, will come around and see the Light.
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--- Quote from: Killbot on 21 Oct 2009, 19:09 ---
--- Quote from: zagraf on 21 Oct 2009, 18:21 ---People who hate non-hetero people should not be reading this comic, which has had an openly bisexual and an openly gay character for years, so it's not like it's a big surprise to have another two gay characters.
Go away and read something else. Really, it's okay. No one's forcing you to come here.
Or keep trolling and be banned by Jeph. Either way.
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I don't hate people of abnormal sexuality, they're flawed, sinful people like everyone else. In fact, the presence of homosexuals gives the comic more realism, and demonstrates that the characters are imperfect and in need of God's transforming power. I have no problems with gays in fiction, but with Jeph's attitude toward them, portraying them as okay and not needing to change. This is a rejection of family values and the traditional order of marriage.
Bottom line: I'll suspend my disbelief, but not my beliefs.
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--- Quote from: Killbot on 21 Oct 2009, 18:15 ---
--- Quote from: thaX on 21 Oct 2009, 17:45 ---
--- Quote from: Killbot on 21 Oct 2009, 16:43 ---If this comic were even the slightest bit realistic, Marten's dad would not be making contact with him. Whatever shrill liberal media shrews may have told you, gays are not family people. Men who turn gay never return to their families.
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Typical.
The overall ostracized gay community isn't always the way a particular individual would be tunneled or led through. Just because there have been many instances that made it to where a gay couple ends up estranged from family (By their choice or the families) doesn't mean that every single homosexual shunts out their family and reteats into a shack with their lover.
This is a great moment for Martin, and I think the hug is not at all over the top, nor a moment that would be rare in the given circumstances.
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You call my opinion "typical", then accuse me of overgeneralizing?
typical liberal behavior.
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--- Quote from: Killbot on 21 Oct 2009, 17:19 ---
--- Quote from: Mr_Rose on 21 Oct 2009, 17:02 ---I can't tell if you're honestly just terribly bitter about some personal experience or if you're just another homophobe troll. I think it's the truly heartfelt way you made that sweeping generalisation that does it. Well played sir.
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Firstly, sir, I'm not a sir. I am female, was born female, and will not be trying to change this.
I can see that the Orwellian homosexualization of america has taken your mind so completely that you are unsure even that others can think differently from you. Well, I assure you I am not a troll, just one whom the truth has set free.
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--- Quote from: Killbot on 21 Oct 2009, 16:43 ---If this comic were even the slightest bit realistic, Marten's dad would not be making contact with him. Whatever shrill liberal media shrews may have told you, gays are not family people. Men who turn gay never return to their families.
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THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS!!!!!http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/9/9e/Arguecat.PNG
SJCrew:
Blah blah blah gay marriage, blah blah blah religion... Same shit everywhere, read this thread knowing exactly what to expect, and wasn't off by so much as an inch. Fucking amazing.
Can't we all just get along?
LTK:
--- Quote from: kraemandrummer on 24 Oct 2009, 22:23 ---THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS!!!!!
http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/9/9e/Arguecat.PNG
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Why did you do that? Why?
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