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[SWOON! at My Gravitas]

It just makes me so happy when I listen to it, sometimes I don't even understand it

[StaedlerMars]

The Tron soundtrack is pretty awesome mix of daft punk base glitch noises and classic film score music.

Discuss.

[valley_parade]

i never really understoon the whole "hipsters are supposed to dig kanye" thing pitchfork has got going on. anyone care to explain?

I have no clue, they seem to just randomly dig semi-mainstream hip-hop.

Anyway thread, it's my turn to post lists.


Great:
Aloe Blacc - Good Things
Black Breath - Heavy Breathing
Castevet - The Echo & The Light
Das Racist - Sit Down, Man
The Dopamines - Expect The Worst
Hanggai - He Who Travels Far
The Hextalls - Get Smashed
every Japandroids single
Joie De Vivre - The North End
Mass of the Fermenting Dregs - Zero Comma, Irotoridori no Sekai
Nails - Unsilent Death
Paper Tiger - Made Like Us
Shad - TSOL
Tobacco - Maniac Meat
Surfer Blood - Astro Coast
Red City Radio - To The Sons & Daughters of Woody Guthrie

Psst, Gaslight Anthem! These guys do the whole Americana/cowpunk thing better than you:
Two Cow Garage - Sweet Saint Me

Good, but not great:
We Are The Union - Greap Leaps Forward
Wooden Shjips - Volume 2
Sundowner - We Chase The Waves
Tokyo Police Club - Champ
Thermals - Personal Life
Teenage Fanclub - Shadows
Ted Leo/Rx - The Brutalist Bricks
Street Dogs - self titled
ASMZ - Kollaps Tradixionales
The Sainte Catherines - Fire Works
The Riot Before - Rebellion
Olafur Arnalds - ...And They Have Escaped the stop having really long album titles, people from Iceland, I still can't pronounce Sigur Ros' last album
The New Pornographers - Together
Moon Duo - Escape
The Measure [SA] - Notes
Marnie Stern - Self Titled
Look Mexico - To Bed To Battle
Kaki King - Junior
Gorillaz - Plastic Beach
Girls - Broken Dreams Club EP
Free Energy - Stuck On Nothing
Flatfoot 56 - Black Thorn
Fake Problems - Real Ghosts Caught On Tape
Dungen - Skit I Allt
Das Racist - Shut Up, Dude
Cut Chemist - Sound Of The Police
Broken Social Scene - Forgiveness Rock Record
Brant Bjork - Gods & Goddesses
Blood Red Shoes - Fire Like This


Could have been better:
Midnight Juggernauts - The Crystal Axis
MGMT - Congratulations
Gaslight Anthem - American Slang
Eux Autres - Broken Bow
Both Eels albums
Boris & Ian Astbury - BXI
The Album Leaf - A Chorus of Storytellers
Vampire Weekend - Contra
Royksopp - Senior
RJD2 - The Colossus


Y U NO MAKE GOOD ALBUM
Wintersleep - New Inheritors
Everything Wavves does, ever, ever, ever.
Dear Animal Collective side projects, you sucked too. I mean, I heard like 26 seconds of one Avey Tare song, but it wasn't good at all.

Best shows:
1. The Dopamines/Grabass Charlestons/Curious Volume
2. Ted Leo & The Pharmacists/Screaming Females
3. Wilco/Mavis Staples (Solid Sound Festival)
4. Flatfoot 56/Refuse Resist/The Damaged
5. The Damaged/Lenny Lashley's Gang of One/Midnight Saints
6. Outrageous Cherry (Solid Sound Festival)
7. Birds In The Air/three other bands that sucked

[David_Dovey]

I honestly wasn't that crazy about the Two Cow Garage record, to be honest man. It was OK. Good list otherwise. (also you reminded me to get the Free Energy record and check out The Thermals)

[valley_parade]

If only the printers would get it fucking PRINTED and send it to Suburban Home, so they in turn can send it to me.

[scarred]

Lykke Li's new single is up for download for free on her site.

It's pretty cool!

[squawk]

She's such a lil bamf

Also feel free to add me to the "i never paid attention to kanye but shit this new record is super good" bandwagon

his new record is really really enjoyable to me.

[Tom]

Dammit, I guess I gotta listen to it now.

[Professor Snuggles]

I'll come down on the side of "I actively disliked Kanye before this record, or at least his rapping, but think this is probably top 3 best records I've heard this year."

A big part of it is he lets better rappers take the lead more, but honestly, cmon, how fuccin good is "All of The Lights"

[TheFuriousWombat]

Dammit, I guess I gotta listen to it now.

[Professor Snuggles]

Oh, what, really? Nicki Minaj is the most interesting thing to happen to American pop music in years. Also: her videos are ridic.

Dude I mean, really? She's just Lil Kim: The Return. Like her verse on Monster is sicc but "most interesting thing to happen in American Pop Music in Years?" Like, dude, Gaga. Kanye. Even Katy fuccin Perry is doing more interesting stuff than Minaj.

 That said the album is like, aight on first listen.

[TheFuriousWombat]

but "most interesting thing to happen in American Pop Music in Years?" Like, dude, Gaga....

lol

[Professor Snuggles]

I mean you can hate on her music if you want, although you're foolish for doing so, but can you deny she is interesting? The spectacle she has created as a persona, the absurdity of her costumes/videos/concerts, what's more exciting than that in music?

[valley_parade]

Really good melodic punk.

[TheFuriousWombat]

I mean you can hate on her music if you want, although you're foolish for doing so, but can you deny she is interesting? The spectacle she has created as a persona, the absurdity of her costumes/videos/concerts, what's more exciting than that in music?

The idea that Lady Gaga "is one of the most exciting things to happen to pop music in years" is absolutely absurd. She's all gimmick, a clever hack whose managed to convince millions that crazy hats and lots of eye shadow are somehow the same thing as musical ability or talent in general. She's interesting only insofar as she's a great case study in the power of marketing and the willingness of the American public to rush to worship at whatever kitschy, overrated altar of hype is currently being called The Next Big Thing regardless of any actual merit. Her music is tired, derivative. It pushes no boundaries despite the bewildering arguments to the contrary. Even her outfits, while certainly weird, are often little more than garish Halloween costumes, rife for parody and fully deserving of it. She deserves credit only for her obvious business acumen: she knows how to manipulate the masses and self market to an amazing degree. In short she's a shill, a sham, and a charlatan, an edifice and monument to crass, surface level aesthetics with absolutely nothing beneath the vapid, uninspiring veneer.

[Professor Snuggles]

I mean you can hate on her music if you want, although you're foolish for doing so, but can you deny she is interesting? The spectacle she has created as a persona, the absurdity of her costumes/videos/concerts, what's more exciting than that in music?

 Lady Gaga is a pop star.

[Professor Snuggles]

Sorry, that was excessively reductionistic. I am in the process of getting tattooed, posting from my phone. Will be more eloquent later.

[David_Dovey]

Devin Townsend update on Deconstruction.  Not having to do with 2010 exactly, but it doesn't matter because he is Devin Townsend

Holy shit Dev is so fucking Canadian. The opening bit of that video is the most Canadian thing I've ever seen.

[StaedlerMars]

Andrew WK just tweeted something about a new album.

PS: if you're on twitter, follow Andrew WK on twitter.

[Inlander]

I mean you can hate on her music if you want, although you're foolish for doing so, but can you deny she is interesting? The spectacle she has created as a persona, the absurdity of her costumes/videos/concerts, what's more exciting than that in music?

The idea that Lady Gaga "is one of the most exciting things to happen to pop music in years" is absolutely absurd.

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you didn't do it deliberately, but you've substituted "interesting" in the original post (and the post Kieffer was referencing) for "exciting" in your own post, and that radically changes the argument to something quite different to what Kieffer was saying. Which renders the rest of your post pointless, I'm afraid.

[scarred]

I'm not a fan of Gaga's music really, but her stage persona and the way she's gained her significant following would qualify as "interesting," I think. "Exciting?" "Riveting?" Maybe not. But "interesting"? Well, we're talking about her (and this isn't the first discussion we've had on the matter, by a long shot).

[De_El]

Dude I mean, really? She's just Lil Kim: The Return. Like her verse on Monster is sicc but "most interesting thing to happen in American Pop Music in Years?" Like, dude, Gaga. Kanye. Even Katy fuccin Perry is doing more interesting stuff than Minaj.

 That said the album is like, aight on first listen.

Yeah but like, Gaga broke in 2008, right? Her reign in pop is in full swing. We are in the midst of the Gaga Dynasty.  I'm thinking of who's coming next to get her. Kanye I don't really know what to do with. He's pop because he's huge but ostensibly still a rapper of some kind. He definitely is starting to trade in nonsensical combinations of grandiose imagery which speaks to his success and his understanding of pastiche, but I dunno if he quite fits.  Katy Perry's such a cartoon as to be practically blank. I couldn't tell you anything about her. Katy Perry? Who's Katy Perry? The brunette with the giant eyes and giant boobs? What tricks does she do?

Nicki, unlike Perry has fucking chops.  She outshines everyone she guests for. In my head, 'Lil Freak,' 'Get It All,' 'Letting Go,' 'Bottoms Up' and 'Knockout' are all Nicki songs. Monster is different because there are so many guests. She's a great female rapper with a playful pop sensibility and American pop has been pretty fucking slim on women rappers for a while now.

[Marupinku]

I've never cared about a Kanye album before and I kind of like this one.

Yeah, basically this.  Don't really having any opinion on any Kanye album before this one, and this one is pretty ok.  Not something that I'm amazed with, but it's better than his previous work.

As far as 2010 stuff goes, I still haven't heard anything that's topped The Gentlemen's Butcher. 

[JD]

I mean you can hate on her music if you want, although you're foolish for doing so, but can you deny she is interesting? The spectacle she has created as a persona, the absurdity of her costumes/videos/concerts, what's more exciting than that in music?

The idea that Lady Gaga "is one of the most exciting things to happen to pop music in years" is absolutely absurd. She's all gimmick, a clever hack whose managed to convince millions that crazy hats and lots of eye shadow are somehow the same thing as musical ability or talent in general. She's interesting only insofar as she's a great case study in the power of marketing and the willingness of the American public to rush to worship at whatever kitschy, overrated altar of hype is currently being called The Next Big Thing regardless of any actual merit. Her music is tired, derivative. It pushes no boundaries despite the bewildering arguments to the contrary. Even her outfits, while certainly weird, are often little more than garish Halloween costumes, rife for parody and fully deserving of it. She deserves credit only for her obvious business acumen: she knows how to manipulate the masses and self market to an amazing degree. In short she's a shill, a sham, and a charlatan, an edifice and monument to crass, surface level aesthetics with absolutely nothing beneath the vapid, uninspiring veneer.

At least she isn't a "look how fucking sexy I am" kinda pop artist, like that katy perry bullshit.

[Nodaisho]

Look at how weird I am and how much makeup I can have put on me is much better.

[JD]

Well yeah duh

[Nodaisho]

You were a goth in highschool weren't you?

[JD]

Nope

[Tom]

New Kanye is unbearably boring.

[scarred]

umm

bradford cox has released 4 atlas sound albums since monday

 

[KvP]

Yes, we live in the age of the internet.

Here is a (very incomplete) list of music I've listened to and owned this year. I'll do my best to update it in the coming days.

 - I love it I love it I love it so much

Swans
Nest
Ital Tek
Deerhunter
Solar Bears
Ramadanman / Pearson Sound
Girl Unit
Squawk
Keith Fullerton Whitman
Instra:Mental / dBridge

 - Pretty great, to be honest

Cloaks
Jam City
Starkey
Hyetal
Space Dimension Controller
The Internal Tulips
Cosmic Revenge
Subeena
LCD Soundsystem

 - First I said “No”, then I was all “Yeah”

Breach
Loops Haunt
Slugabed
Swindle
DJ Nate
Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds
Lego
Transparent Sounds
Altered Natives
Kingdom
Taz Buckfaster
Peverelist
Forest Swords

 - I can’t tell where the irony ends and the enjoyment begins

Lil B
Nite Jewel

 - Points for effort I guess

Rudi Zygadlo
Jimmy Edgar
Eskmo
Optimum

 - I need some time

Point B
DJ Rashad
DJ Roc

  - I expected better

Black Rebel Motorcycle Club
Squarepusher
FaltyDL
Ikonika

 - Please stop you’re boring me

Gorillaz
Girl Talk
Four Tet
Bassnectar
Pretty Lights

[Professor Snuggles]

New Kanye is unbearably boring.

Nope, guess again.

[scarred]

Yes, we live in the age of the internet.

SINCE WHEN

[scarred]

speaking of which, Marla Hansen just dropped a new single without anybody noticing. crossing my fingers that she's got a new release in the works. i cannot get enough of her.

[Professor Snuggles]

Dude I mean, really? She's just Lil Kim: The Return. Like her verse on Monster is sicc but "most interesting thing to happen in American Pop Music in Years?" Like, dude, Gaga. Kanye. Even Katy fuccin Perry is doing more interesting stuff than Minaj.

 That said the album is like, aight on first listen.

Yeah but like, Gaga broke in 2008, right? Her reign in pop is in full swing. We are in the midst of the Gaga Dynasty.  I'm thinking of who's coming next to get her. Kanye I don't really know what to do with. He's pop because he's huge but ostensibly still a rapper of some kind. He definitely is starting to trade in nonsensical combinations of grandiose imagery which speaks to his success and his understanding of pastiche, but I dunno if he quite fits.  Katy Perry's such a cartoon as to be practically blank. I couldn't tell you anything about her. Katy Perry? Who's Katy Perry? The brunette with the giant eyes and giant boobs? What tricks does she do?

Nicki, unlike Perry has fucking chops.  She outshines everyone she guests for. In my head, 'Lil Freak,' 'Get It All,' 'Letting Go,' 'Bottoms Up' and 'Knockout' are all Nicki songs. Monster is different because there are so many guests. She's a great female rapper with a playful pop sensibility and American pop has been pretty fucking slim on women rappers for a while now.

Yeah but like, listen to her record. It's not actually good at all, really. There's a couple decent tracks, and then there's messes like that will.I.am bullshit. It's not anywhere close to an interesting record, it's just more dirty-souf style rap shit, which I love, but she doesn't rep it that well. I dunno if someone else is actually more interesting as like "the next thing," although I know all y'all are still sleeping on The-Dream but he ain't new, I just don't really think you can call Minaj the next big exciting thing.

Gaga completely changed the way we think about Pop Music. Her videos, her concerts, have brought about a completely new paradigm in what pop music is allowed to do. Think about how crazy thriller was back in the day, or purple rain, and then think about the fucking Telephone  video and how completely mindblowing that shit was. No one was expecting that from her, and whether or not you liked it, it was a fucking marker. Now look at Kanye's Runaway video, etc. They've taken pop music from being nothing but singles and filler tracks that you hear and forget, and made it into a spectacle again, which is exactly what it should be. I guess you can give JT some credit on this too irt the goes around comes around video from FSLS but these two, and especially Gaga, have made it an art. Regardless of whether you like her music, you gotta give her credit for making pop music interesting again.

[TheFuriousWombat]

I mean you can hate on her music if you want, although you're foolish for doing so, but can you deny she is interesting? The spectacle she has created as a persona, the absurdity of her costumes/videos/concerts, what's more exciting than that in music?

The idea that Lady Gaga "is one of the most exciting things to happen to pop music in years" is absolutely absurd.

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you didn't do it deliberately, but you've substituted "interesting" in the original post (and the post Kieffer was referencing) for "exciting" in your own post, and that radically changes the argument to something quite different to what Kieffer was saying. Which renders the rest of your post pointless, I'm afraid.

Oh man, so I did. Definitely unintentional. That being said, my post is still completely valid. She's not even interesting beyond the fact that it's interesting to look at why people are going so nuts over her i.e. she's only interesting insofar as she illuminates certain widespread cultural tendencies. On her own (music, outfits, image etc.) there's nothing of interest to speak of.

[Professor Snuggles]

So then, if there is nothing interesting about her, which I'll grant for the sake of the argument, what has happened in American Pop Music recently that is more interesting than the people I listed. Lets say in the last 5 years.

[Vuk]

She deserves credit only for her obvious business acumen: she knows how to manipulate the masses and self market to an amazing degree. In short she's a shill, a sham, and a charlatan, an edifice and monument to crass, surface level aesthetics with absolutely nothing beneath the vapid, uninspiring veneer.

This. Although, I find her ability to sell herself so well pretty remarkable. Apparently she is a huge part of the "creative" effort behind her music and image, so I guess I could give her that. Saying she's better than Kanye though? Bullshit.

[SWOON! at My Gravitas]

I always thought that Lady Gaga, and correct me if I'm wrong because I was not alive during the 80's, is basically Madonna

[Vuk]

I always thought that Lady Gaga, and correct me if I'm wrong because I was not alive during the 80's, is basically Madonna

I think Madonna must have made more of an impact, because there was nothing quite like her before. Plus, there were tons of big pop stars after Madonna in the 90s, so Gaga isn't really anything new. They only seem to differ style-wise, cause Gaga wears retarded shit.

[TheFuriousWombat]

yeah Gaga is Madonna only twenty years too late to actually be innovative or special

[ThePianoMan]

So then, if there is nothing interesting about her, which I'll grant for the sake of the argument, what has happened in American Pop Music recently that is more interesting than the people I listed. Lets say in the last 5 years.

Mainstream pop music? Honestly, I tend to avoid the stuff precisely because there isn't anything more interesting than Gaga. I suppose we could mention MIA or Kanye, but I'd have to say for the most part it's unexciting stuff. This isn't just alt-rock snobbery, though--comparing this decade to previous ones, there just hasn't been a lot happening. There haven't been new genres gaining relevance, and new sounds have been largely derivative; the two biggest sounds, pop-country and hip-hop, have been in creative decline for some time. Arguing Gaga is the best thing happening isn't saying much in a situation so bereft of excitement.

[KvP]

Lady Gaga is not Madonna. If Grace Jones is Little Richard, Gaga is Pat Boone. I don't know why this is not obvious.

[SWOON! at My Gravitas]

I've been listening a bit to the debut album by a retro doom band called Ghost, Opus Eponymous.  Remember on old Scooby Doo cartoons when the gang would be all looking for clues, and then they'd run into the monster that was really an old guy in a rubber mask, and it would chase them around while music played in the background?  Ghost sound like that music, except they are all about Satan.  Anyway, the album comes at the recommendation of Fenriz of Darkthrone, so you can trust it to be pretty rockin'.

And if this riff does not cause you to bang your head, you are probably wearing a neck brace

[David_Dovey]

I've heard this band mentioned three times in three different locations today. This is obviously a sign. (helps that they're pretty funky)

[De_El]

Yeah but like, listen to her record. It's not actually good at all, really.

It's true! I kinda got stuck trying to defend a point I made before hearing the record.  It was kind of just one whole willfully obtuse cringe-fest after I found out about the will.i.am track. I'm not totally abandoning hope, but the album was a major letdown.  

[Professor Snuggles]

I think the ultimate problem here is that you guys don't like pop music. That's cool. You're missing out though.

[BeoPuppy]

I always thought that Lady Gaga, and correct me if I'm wrong because I was not alive during the 80's, is basically Madonna

I did get to see the rise of the Madonna monster and I see the resemblence. I'm therefore not shocked at the new-ness of Gaga since there seems to be none.

And the meat dress was just heinous.

[David_Dovey]

I think the ultimate problem here is that you guys don't like pop music. That's cool. You're missing out though.

(I don't want to get into a fight about what pop music is AGAIN but) yes I do

[Professor Snuggles]

Naw you're right I shoulda said mainstream pop/radio pop to be clear. S'all fuccin pop shit.