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KvP:
I think Hype Machine relies on flash.

jhocking:

--- Quote from: est on 02 Feb 2010, 03:19 ---I find it pretty interesting that he says "Apple doesn't support flash" when their macs support flash just fine.  I find it pretty interesting that the iPhone obviously does support flash played through some sort of app as a translator like the Youtube app when there is enough of a demand for it and when it can't be used to damage their own little content delivery ecosystem.

--- End quote ---

Your characterization of the situation isn't quite right, although you are right that there is more of a backroom battle than Apple is admitting. Thing is, that battle is to a certain extent pushing back against how Microsoft tried to own web video. I know you're probably thinking "huh? what does microsoft have to do with anything" but seriously it's complicated, read this:
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/07/06/ogg_theora_h_264_and_the_html_5_browser_squabble.html

Long story short, thinking that Flash games are a significant factor here is ignoring that the real prize is web video.


(oh, and the youtube player on iphone has nothing to do with Flash. Basically, youtube sends video to iphone in the same format that iTunes uses to play movies, not as Flash videos. I used to think it's pretty amazing that youtube could host so many frikkin videos for free, but it's actually even more astonishing than that because they actually store like a dozen copies of every video in multiple resolutions and file formats.)

ADDITION: in fact another page on that site linked as a related article explains about how youtube on iphone has nothing to do with flash. Refer to the bottom of this article:
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/02/18/flash_on_the_iphone_again_sounding_like_wishful_thinking.html

est:
Thanks for the info, Jho.  Also, there are a bunch of news sites that use some sort of custom flash player to stream video news/reviews/etc.

Reed:
The article on the codec wars was pretty interesting, but holy shit did the author not bother hiding his bias. I mean, I know it's an apple centric website, but he could have at least attempted to write it as an objective piece.

jhocking:
Read the parts that say "In 1997 Company A did X" and ignore the parts that say "and that's why they are pig-dogs while Apple rulez!!!"

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