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"Fucked Up [...] the best hardcore album band of at least the last 2 decades"

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Christophe:


HEY TOMMY I THINK YOU FORGOT SOME DUDES, LIKE US.

KharBevNor:
European-style hardcore has the enormous advantage of morphing fairly rapidly into crust punk and grindcore, two (sub?) genres that offer far more decent music than hardcore, whereas american-style hardcore hung around like a bad smell before it turned into post-hardcore, which is all extremely boring.

Post-hardcore then went on to inspire many of the worst bands ever.

Johnny C:
i'd rather listen to DOA than grindcore

a pack of wolves:

--- Quote from: KharBevNor on 08 Feb 2010, 20:10 ---European-style hardcore has the enormous advantage of morphing fairly rapidly into crust punk and grindcore, two (sub?) genres that offer far more decent music than hardcore, whereas american-style hardcore hung around like a bad smell before it turned into post-hardcore, which is all extremely boring.

Post-hardcore then went on to inspire many of the worst bands ever.

--- End quote ---

You are remembering that American hardcore invented the blastbeat, right? Plus, they're really good at snot-nosed bratty hate. Just look at Charles Bronson. They really did do a lot besides post-hardcore, including with Discordance Axis the best grind band ever.

Also, powerviolence was a US thing. And I fucking love a bit of powerviolence.

KharBevNor:
I'll give you powerviolence. But I'd also like to point out that since the 90's the two styles of hardcore have crossed geographic borders in their influences, which is why I said 'american style' and 'european style', referring to evolutions from those early (1979-1985) scenes. I wouldn't imagine Funeral for a Friend trace their lineage back to Crass and Discharge, despite existing on the same landmass, for example.

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