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"Fucked Up [...] the best hardcore album band of at least the last 2 decades"
a pack of wolves:
Well no, but queercore bands like Behead The Prophet, No Lord Shall Live, Limp Wrist, Mukilteo Fairies, Knifed et al are tracing their lineage back to The Dicks, MDC, Big Boys and the faster bands like Siege, Deep Wound and Negative FX. All very much in the American style.
You got to take the good with the bad. Like the fact that grind was largely responsible for the existence of Anal Cunt, crust meaning I've seen one too many utterly interchangeable bands in my time, and all that macho crap that came out of Clevo and NY.
Christophe:
--- Quote from: a pack of wolves on 08 Feb 2010, 22:20 ---grind was largely responsible for the existence of Anal Cunt
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YOU CALL THIS A BAD THING?
David_Dovey:
--- Quote from: E. Spaceman on 08 Feb 2010, 11:59 ---I honestly don't understand your outrage, dovey. The only decent hardcore bands were the ones that moved away from the hardcore sound like Fugazi,Rites of Spring, Slint, Husker Du, The Minutemen (it must be noted that although Black Flag moved away from the archetypical hardcore sound, they were never a good band).
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Well I guess the main thing here being that in contrast to most of the people here, I would consider hardcore as including a lot of the off-shoot movements that take in bands like Fugazi and Hüsker Dü, particularly in the eighties/early nineties when hardcore had less to do with rigid musical restrictions and more to do with an aesthetic or ideological slant. This is why by my standards the Minutemen, as previously stated, are one of the most hardcore bands to have ever existed, because of their dedication to independence and egalitarianism moreso than the speed of their drums or how shouty the singer is.
In this respect I see hardcore as being pretty much the same as it's punk rock forebears, in that punk can sound like anything as well, and is far better defined by the attitudes of those making the music. I suppose this perspective puts me in the minority.
a pack of wolves:
I'd totally go along with that way of looking at hardcore as well. I've seen sets by one guy with an acoustic guitar that sounded like hardcore to me, and I always thought of the Minutemen and Fugazi as just being hardcore bands.
--- Quote from: Christophe on 08 Feb 2010, 23:05 ---YOU CALL THIS A BAD THING?
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Hideously overrated band, and from what I've heard Seth Putnam really is as big a dick as you might expect. Arsedestroyer and Sore Throat were far superior noisecore bands. Hell, I'd even listen to Twodeadsluts Onegoodfuck over Anal Cunt. They're down there with Cock And Ball Torture in terms of crap grind that far too many people inexplicably like.
David_Dovey:
--- Quote from: Ptommydski on 08 Feb 2010, 12:52 ---The two notable exceptions being Minor Threat and Bad Brains. It's odd to me how the two bands which effectively originated the subgenre made a continuation of the sound more or less an irrelevance. If I want to hear some Hardcore, I don't ever feel the urge reach past the early records by those two bands. Nothing sounds quite as good to me.
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Man if people only ever listened to the very best example of anything then every other band would go broke and The Stooges would be the world's largest economy.
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