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What is bad music?
« on: 17 Mar 2010, 08:03 »

Hello all,
I am currently in the process of writing an article covering the topic of what bad music is.  I'm a looking for opinions from all different walks and areas and I figured this board would be a fair place to begin. 

What specifically to you, is the epitome of bad music?

Also, if you could please, fill out this quick 10 question survey regarding music that would be greatly appreciated... http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/HB7BV95

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Re: What is bad music?
« Reply #1 on: 17 Mar 2010, 08:18 »

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Re: What is bad music?
« Reply #2 on: 17 Mar 2010, 08:35 »

I'm not looking at "The Worst Band of All Time" or "The Worst Song of All Time."  What I want to hear from people is what they view as bad music...and why it's part of the media if it's so bad.  I'm doing a case study of different genre's and of different demographics.

Or also just different bad practices of the industry in general.
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Re: What is bad music?
« Reply #3 on: 17 Mar 2010, 08:45 »

Your survey has a number of flaws that makes it hard to fill out.

First of all, your "education level" breakdown is flawed. You should change "professional degree" to "higher then masters" or "terminal degree." A PhD is higher then a masters, but is not considered a professional degree. Also, some people consider things like a certification in medical administration to be professional degrees, despite being equivalent to the bachelors or associates level.  Basically, the term professional degree doesn't really mean what you think it does.

You left off the box for "other" under least favorite.

You should be more specific about how you wish to measure amount. If I listen to 5 albums over 3 hours, and then later listen to the radio for 10 minutes while driving to work, I could tell you that I listened to music for 3 hours and 10 minutes that day, or I could tell you that I listened to 5 albums, or I could say that I listened twice. I suggest amount of time as the most consistent metric.

Some of us still listen to music using CDs and record players. I probably have a few hundred songs on a computer hard-drive somewhere. I also own somewhere on the order of 500 albums. The first number implies that I don't own a lot of music, when I actually own a fair amount.

Your last question is going to produce biased results. First of all, the law is not the same everywhere, but more importantly, whether or not its true, if you label acquiring music via free-download or file sharing as "illegal" people are going to be less likely to respond that they do it often. While some people certainly don't care, others are less likely to respond positively if you actually list it as a crime even on anonymous survey.

For example, if an anonymous survey asks "how often do you smoke marijuana?" and a different survey asks "how often do you use illegal drugs?" you're likely to find that somehow more people smoke marijuana then use illegal drugs, even though smoking marijuana is using an illegal drug in almost all cases. This is because people see the word illegal and are automatically conditioned to deny wrongdoing.
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Re: What is bad music?
« Reply #4 on: 17 Mar 2010, 08:49 »

Okay, thank you very much for the response.  I can't fix it right now as I'm off to class, but when I get a chance I will.  Everything you said makes sense...I guess I just wasn't sure how to build my survey.  Thanks!
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Re: What is bad music?
« Reply #5 on: 17 Mar 2010, 08:54 »

Inherently bad music doesn't exist, no matter how much you want to try and justify your tastes as objectively correct.
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Re: What is bad music?
« Reply #6 on: 17 Mar 2010, 08:54 »

I mean, except for Deerhoof.
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Re: What is bad music?
« Reply #7 on: 17 Mar 2010, 09:02 »

I mean, except for Deerhoof.

I put a stamp of approval on this post.

Not that I've ever heard of Deerhoof, but this forum went through like a year long face of constantly masturbating over them, so someone hating them amuses me for a moment or two.
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Re: What is bad music?
« Reply #8 on: 17 Mar 2010, 09:13 »

Turn on the top 40 radio.

It's probably gonna be bad music playing.


Though lets be fair, if you turn on the classic rock radio, that's got a more than even chance of being some pretty fucking terrible music as well.
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Re: What is bad music?
« Reply #9 on: 17 Mar 2010, 09:16 »

Jens I'm perplexed by the fact that you think Coil 'don't mean it'.
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Re: What is bad music?
« Reply #12 on: 17 Mar 2010, 09:49 »

I knew at least one of the things I wrote above was going to get a reaction like that - I dunno man, it just doesn't sound... right, somehow. I can't explain it and I expect lots of people will think I'm a right tit for saying something like "x artist doesn't mean it when they perform", but I'm just not convinced!

Similarly to what I'm saying about bad music, I can't really define good music either. It either sounds good or it doesn't, and while there are definitely genres I can run by as a general rule, I can see few similarities between, say, Nina Simone and Black Flag.

What do you mean by "don't mean it"? That they aren't sincere?
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Re: What is bad music?
« Reply #14 on: 17 Mar 2010, 09:51 »

Not that I've ever heard of Deerhoof

For the record, that's really, really stupid. Also, you are assuming it's bad because "we" like it - fuck you too! You are a music snob with bad taste and no tact who has somehow decided that dissent is a good thing no matter how wrong it might be. Not that you would know.

You probably would hate Deerhoof though.
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Re: What is bad music?
« Reply #15 on: 17 Mar 2010, 10:01 »

The way someone feels and emotion and how they express it don't necessarily have to be identical, though, do they?
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« Reply #16 on: 17 Mar 2010, 10:26 »

For the record, that's really, really stupid. Also, you are assuming it's bad because "we" like it - fuck you too! You are a music snob with bad taste and no tact who has somehow decided that dissent is a good thing no matter how wrong it might be. Not that you would know.

You probably would hate Deerhoof though.



As much as I agree with this sentiment he is right about Deerhoof.
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« Reply #17 on: 17 Mar 2010, 10:28 »

I knew at least one of the things I wrote above was going to get a reaction like that - I dunno man, it just doesn't sound... right, somehow. I can't explain it and I expect lots of people will think I'm a right tit for saying something like "x artist doesn't mean it when they perform", but I'm just not convinced!

You're pretty much my opposite in terms of musical taste. I tend to view hardcore as a bunch of people who try really hard but suck anyway. Basically, the whole genre is a classical tragedy.
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« Reply #18 on: 17 Mar 2010, 10:31 »



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« Reply #19 on: 17 Mar 2010, 10:33 »

Also, I know what I posted doesn't have much to do with anything, it's just something I think pretty much whenever Jeans talks about music.
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« Reply #20 on: 17 Mar 2010, 10:35 »

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Re: What is bad music?
« Reply #21 on: 17 Mar 2010, 10:53 »

I'm not really feeling it in Coil at all.

Maybe it's because English ain't your mother tongue or something because I can pretty plainly hear how he is starting to crack up in the middle of Fire of the Mind.
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« Reply #22 on: 17 Mar 2010, 11:23 »

I dunno about that, I tend to agree with you on things far more often than not, particularly when people on the forums start lynching some guy. I just don't really feel the need to go "Hey, what that guy said," after most of your posts, so it doesn't come up often.
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« Reply #23 on: 17 Mar 2010, 11:31 »

Chris, I just want to point out that I hate you for making me actually save this picture.



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Re: What is bad music?
« Reply #24 on: 17 Mar 2010, 11:39 »

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Re: What is bad music?
« Reply #25 on: 17 Mar 2010, 11:41 »

Autotuned music is pretty bad
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« Reply #26 on: 17 Mar 2010, 11:48 »

yeah there's really only one acceptable song that uses autotune
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« Reply #27 on: 17 Mar 2010, 11:53 »

Not at all - Dance Music by The Mountain Goats, for instance. It doesn't have to be the same, but there has to be something, I think.

I get what you're saying now. That is one of my favourite Mountain Goats songs, I think.
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« Reply #28 on: 17 Mar 2010, 13:26 »

bad music is music that i don't approve of duhhh.
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« Reply #31 on: 17 Mar 2010, 15:13 »

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« Reply #32 on: 17 Mar 2010, 15:27 »

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Re: What is bad music?
« Reply #33 on: 17 Mar 2010, 19:46 »

It seems to me that bad music is entirely subjective - it can only be defined as music you don't like, even though somebody else does like it.

Except Creed.  Even Jesus hates Creed (or so I hear).
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Re: What is bad music?
« Reply #34 on: 17 Mar 2010, 19:47 »

I put a stamp of approval on this post.

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« Reply #35 on: 17 Mar 2010, 22:37 »

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« Reply #36 on: 17 Mar 2010, 22:38 »

yeah there's really only one acceptable song that uses autotune

Even then that isn't my favorite song by them.
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« Reply #37 on: 17 Mar 2010, 22:39 »

Brokencyde

I just noticed that these four motherfuckers are wearing a total of five pairs of sunglasses

I only see 4.
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« Reply #38 on: 17 Mar 2010, 22:53 »

Brokencyde

I just noticed that these four motherfuckers are wearing a total of five pairs of sunglasses

I only see 4.

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« Reply #39 on: 17 Mar 2010, 22:59 »

On the green shirt on the far right
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« Reply #40 on: 17 Mar 2010, 23:02 »

You youngsters and your 20/20 vision.

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« Reply #41 on: 17 Mar 2010, 23:04 »

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« Reply #42 on: 18 Mar 2010, 00:27 »

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« Reply #43 on: 18 Mar 2010, 02:08 »

Except the guy on the right's shirt is clearly just a normal fucking skull, and since one of them isn't wearing real sunglasses there's only four pairs in the picture you dickweasels.
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« Reply #44 on: 18 Mar 2010, 03:57 »

I don't know anything anymore.
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« Reply #45 on: 18 Mar 2010, 05:48 »

Bad music to me constitutes a lack of passion.

If you don't believe in what you're doing or don't want to do it, or if you're just a shameless product of committee thinking then I'll likely have no interest. Manufactured pop music is not necessarily an example of this because a lot of people who end up in manufactured groups have a real passion for what they're doing and some of them even evolve into legitimate artists in their own right - Take That, for example.

The other example is when someone has such talent that they can just fart out amazing music. Like Tupac Shakur, who essentially tossed off arguably rap's greatest album in 1996.
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« Reply #46 on: 18 Mar 2010, 05:57 »

Dude Khar you are wrong about this.  Look directly above the bridge of the nose on Mr. Greenskull
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« Reply #47 on: 18 Mar 2010, 09:20 »

Except the guy on the right's shirt is clearly just a normal fucking skull, and since one of them isn't wearing real sunglasses there's only four pairs in the picture you dickweasels.

I was waiting for someone to call me out on shutter shades not being real sunglasses but fuck you they're called shutter shades
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« Reply #48 on: 18 Mar 2010, 09:24 »

And you can get shades for windows too but they're not sunglasses either.
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