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ackblom12:
I would definitely say every game ever made afterwards is an exaggeration, but they did have a massive influence across multiple genres for a good long time.
Funnily enough, I wasn't even a fan of Super Mario 64. Outside of Galaxy I never really got into the 3D Mario games and Ocarina of Time would probably be No. 3 or 4 on my list of Zelda games.
Sox:
I counted Super Mario 64 in the top lists ten 12 times, and the top five probably half those, before giving up, since I was still not quite half way down that page.
The other dominant games on those lists are either 2D games from a previous generation or totally incomparable.
You seem to be extrapolating too much from my posts. At no point did I say that Super Mario 64 and the Ocarina of Time influenced every game ever made, or since. If you were to take one sentence, out of context, and interpret it literally, then I did say that. But I'm clearly talking about 3D action gaming. I would have to be a complete fool to suggests that the arrival of Super Mario 64 revolutionised Real-Time Strategy games. Do you really think me that naive?
You have RPGs, FPS, RTS, puzzlers and a 2D beat'em ups. Those are games that work in the exact same way they always have, ever since their humble 2D beginnings with little more than graphical updates. Those are the other games dominating those lists. They also can't be compared to either SM64 or LoZOOT, not because neither of those games were revolutionary, but because you're talking about games that are totally seperate and distinct from them. Those games use the exact same foundations laid down by their 8bit predessors.
Did you know, that at one time, LoZOOT was using the SM64 game engine? SM64 had a powerful influence over the development of OOT. Many ideas that weren't used in the mario game made it into the Zelda one. Nothing to do with this discussion, just something I thought was cool and interesting.
I'm not going to look at more of those lists. You can tell with a glance. The only games comparable to SM64 and LoZOOT on those lists are games that were heavily influenced by the mario and zelda franchises.
Your argument seems to be that SM64 was not revolutionary because it didn't re-invent Tetris and it didn't make Civilization on the PC anymore interesting than it already was.
look out! Ninjas!:
You could easily trace the influence of SM64 to every third person game made post-SM64. That's stuff like Gears of War, Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank...
David_Dovey:
--- Quote from: look out! Ninjas! on 29 Mar 2010, 23:42 ---That's stuff like Gears of War
--- End quote ---
Someone do this. I am not being sarcastic. I actually want to see someone trace out the steps it took to go from Super Mario 64 to Gears of War
Johnny C:
manipulable 3rd-person camera
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