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look out! Ninjas!:
It was more the 3D platforming and the sense of control of Mario relative to that, which had been done before but never to any standard that could be considered 'good'. That and the N64 thumbstick.

Sox:
...at what point did I say that Super Mario 64 was the first 3D videogame? Ben and Ninjas! are correct. I wasn't talking about the introduction of 3D technology, I was talking about that technology actually being used in a way that wasn't just a gimmick or graphical update of a pre-existing 2D concept. Super Mario 64 was an entirely new thing, and inarguably one of the most impressive games ever up to that point on almost every conceivable level. We're talking about a game that is pretty much always in the top 5 of any 'greatest videogames' lists. The only game I have considered 'important' since Super Mario 64, in terms of influence on videogames, was the Ocarina of Time, which is almost always voted the greatest thing of all time. Not just 'greatest game', I'm talking about it being the 'greatest thing'. The Ocarina of Time frequently scores ahead of money, blowjobs, metal and cocaine.

Pretty much every game since has 'borrowed' from either Super Mario 64 or the Ocarina of Time. I think those two games set the benchmark for 3D gaming and nothing has been as fresh or exciting since.

KharBevNor:

--- Quote from: Johnny C on 28 Mar 2010, 20:01 ---i'm trying to think of non-vector 3D games from '86 and they just aren't coming

--- End quote ---

If you're gonna count just vector stuff, then Battlezone came out in 1980. I was thinking of Elite, shit like that. I don't exactly know why vector stuff isn't 'real 3D' (you seem to be implying this), but whatever. It's not so much I don't understand what's so revolutionary about Super Mario 64, what I really don't understand is how you can write off the entire previous development of 3D gaming as a 'gimmick'. I also have never personally seen either of those games at the top of a greatest games of all time list, not that I've seen such a thing for many a long year, but when I was a young man, it always seemed to be Doom, Half Life, Final Fantasy 7 or some shit like that.

Maybe as someone whose gaming was predominantly on PC I have different ideas, but I also can't really see how they influenced 'every subsequent game'. Maybe every subsequent Nintendo game. Otherwise you really are just talking horse shit.

ackblom12:
http://www.filibustercartoons.com/games.htm

They're actually on every single published list in the last several years and seemingly average in the top 5 overall. In all honesty, having beena  console and PC gamer both over the years There has been a pretty obvious influence from both games in multiple genres on both PC and console, especially in the few years immediately after their initial release it was quite obvious.

KharBevNor:
Super Mario 64 is not in every list, and only appears once a couple of times, once in a Nintendo magazine, which patently doesn't count. I guess I should get used to other people inexplicably liking things I can't stand.

It's still total bullshit to say that they influenced every game ever made.

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