Topic: WCT April 5-9, 2010 (Read 61624 times)

Kugai · « **Reply #150 on:** 08 Apr 2010, 00:27 »

Marten's face is classic.

You can just hear his internal monologue.

'When, oh when will I learn to keep my mouth shut!'

themacnut · « **Reply #151 on:** 08 Apr 2010, 01:09 »

Quote from: snubnose on 07 Apr 2010, 23:38

Ok, now I'm adding to the list of things not to do in life:

- Dont hook up with Dora or someone like Dora. Just dont.

Yeah cause next thing you know you'll find yourself coerced into making out with another guy...of course you could always say "Hell TO the NO!" to such demands, assuming you've got the spine.

AngryCallCenterAgent · « **Reply #152 on:** 08 Apr 2010, 01:13 »

Once again with the IKEA maneuver. Look's like Marten's still got foot-in-mouth disease, only this time it's "insert Steve's tongue (A) into Marten's piehole (B)".

On another note, I approve of emergency booze. (Where's my emergency tequila? *rummages*)

snubnose · « **Reply #153 on:** 08 Apr 2010, 01:15 »

STOP giving me such mental images AAAAAH THE PAIN !!!!

LTK · « **Reply #154 on:** 08 Apr 2010, 01:35 »

STEEEEEEVE

akronnick · « **Reply #155 on:** 08 Apr 2010, 02:33 »

Raven

no one special · « **Reply #156 on:** 08 Apr 2010, 02:41 »

The funny thing is, I knew what Dora's exact reaction would be before I even saw panel four. Why? Because I once had a bisexual girlfriend who reacted the exact same way to the exact same thing.

This was years ago. We were at a party of people we knew, and most people were pretty drunk. One of the guys there was gay, but pretty much kissed anyone when drunk. He was going around doing his thing, and at some point he wandered over our direction. I'd never kissed a guy before (as I am straight) but drunk logic figured "what the hell, let's try it once!" So I made out with him, tongue and all. My girlfriend flipped out (in a positive way) and was floored, saying she how incredible freakin' AWESOME and HOT it was.

I can only think of two other girlfriends I've had who would've reacted the same way - both of them were bisexual too. Dunno if it's just bisexual girls that go for that, or just certain girls regardless of orientation, but all the straight girls I've dated would have been grossed the f*** out.

0kamisama · « **Reply #157 on:** 08 Apr 2010, 03:29 »

Dora's reaction was easy enough to predict, but I was surprised to see that Faye seems to be developing a liking for guy-on-guy action as well. I almost expected her to bail for the storage room or get the spray bottle for Dora. Nice to see that she's starting to loosen up a little more.

akronnick · « **Reply #158 on:** 08 Apr 2010, 03:34 »

I'm not sure Faye is into the hot guy-on-guy action as much as Marten's humiliation.

Faye is all about the humiliation (of others.)

tomart · « **Reply #159 on:** 08 Apr 2010, 03:59 »

Just trying to counter some of the hating on casual, mutual-consent makeouts. Steve has a right to his opinion*, despite Faye's obnoxious and hateful "douuuuuche." She's turned from my favorite character into a bully; like, why can't Marten voice a sly, ironic feeling (1637) about all the drawn-out shit she put him through, without her unquestioned self-righteous right to start hitting him AGAIN? & now getting Dora in on it too? Marten's her own personal punching bag, forever? He's not allowed to make a joke about something he suffered through, but she can stab everyone with her rapier wit?

Aubrey: "So a hottie shows up on your doorstep, offers you a little play, and you refuse her?" Davan: "Pretty much"
Aubrey: "Were you visited by the ghost of Christmas stupid last night?" Davan: "I just didn't want to take advantage of her"
Aubrey: "If a woman comes to you and says, "Let's have communion. My hoochie is the holy wafer. Eat of my body," you don't say "No, that's not right because I don't want to hurt your feelings." She doesn't want you to care about her. She wants sexing, Davan!"
http://www.somethingpositive.net/sp12172004.shtml

* Apparently based on much more real-world experience than Faye's knee-jerk name-calling.

You may now return to your tittilating discussion of what excites lesbian/bi women, already in progress.

WhyNot · « **Reply #160 on:** 08 Apr 2010, 04:45 »

And the panel not shown (yet), is the one in which Steve or Marten say "Ladies first" or something to the effect or we can refer to the scene in American Pie 2 when the male cast sneak into the house they are painting, hide and get caught and the girls are all like "You want us to do it? Put a show on for us" deal.

And I do agree with what most have said, that Dora's reaction was very predictible.

I do disagree with "tomart" about Faye becoming a bully. She's been burned/hurt by Sven so she's still a bit angry about it all and thinks that guys shouldn't be taking advantage of drunk women even if they themselve are drunk...which Steve isn't while having the conversation. Maybe if it had been Steve and not Angus and Steve did sleep with Marigold she (Faye) wouldn't have said "Doooouche" since he too would have been drunk and not of ratinal mind...I think I sorta said that already. Time to go, already repeating myself...time for meds!!!!

tomart · « **Reply #161 on:** 08 Apr 2010, 05:12 »

Wait a minute; I already take serious issue with Faye's "being burned/hurt by Sven". It was made clear they weren't an item, and besides, he didn't seem to plan to do it with that singer. And then he was honest, and was punished for that, too. I feel that her hurt was mostly her own doing, misunderstanding (deluding herself about) the relationship they had (...any resemblance to Marigold's hurt being due to her self-delusion with Angus? We might have a theme, or trope, here.)

As for "taking advantage", that can go either way. Women take advantage too (le gasp!) You're right, Faye is still angry about it, and quick to judge and condemn. Too quick for my taste, and I can see hunger for Marty's humiliation in her eyes, and her demand, "Shut up and drink." (to one of her best friends...!?) And that's sad; I've suffered from bullies, and to see my formerly favorite character turn into one... sickens me. And hitting Marten, like the nicest guy ever; I estimate she's already hit him about five times too many, and I thought that shit was long over. If she wants to start doing it again (still for no good reason!) then I think it's time someone started hitting HER, just as hard, to show her what it's like.

As for her possibly not trashing Steve if he had been the one with Marigold, see panel 1.

I think the best outcome would have been if I'd been the one Marigold took her chance with.

littlefox · « **Reply #162 on:** 08 Apr 2010, 05:56 »

Actually, I don't think this Faye reaction has to do with Sven. There's a difference between a woman being like "let's hook up, no feelings involved, it'll be just for fun" and her being like "I have feelings for you, let's make looooove."
Marigold explicitly says, "I think we're more than [friends]" -- I think it's clear to all of us from her interaction with Angus that she does have feelings for him. He realizes this, and realizes how mean it would be to take advantage of her in that situation because he DOESN'T have feelings for her (in fact, he pretty obviously has feelings for someone else entirely [Faye], so it's double-mean).

However, doin' it with a woman who just wants sex (and makes that clear) isn't "disrespectful," as Davan of SP would have us believe -- although I think Davan, of both strip and real life, has probably learned that lesson by now.

Carl-E · « **Reply #163 on:** 08 Apr 2010, 06:24 »

Quote from: bhtooefr on 07 Apr 2010, 22:50

Quote from: Carl-E on 07 Apr 2010, 21:59
Wait, that makes me the male equivalent of a fag hag, doesn't it? Is there a name for that?

Any suggestions?

Lesbro, if you don't mind the usage of "bro."

Sounds like a toy company...

"Look, mommy, this robot transforms into a vibrator!"

New, from Lesbro! Collect 'em all!

I think I stumbled upon something - where the patent ~~orifice~~ office?
Eww.

Near Lurker · « **Reply #164 on:** 08 Apr 2010, 07:50 »

...that is just so many kinds of wrong...

The phrase I've heard has been "dyke tyke"; of course, that's not something I would say without the Internet's comforting anonymity and non-punchability.

Border Reiver · « **Reply #165 on:** 08 Apr 2010, 07:52 »

Pass that idea on to David Willis - he can definitely work it.

LeeC · « **Reply #166 on:** 08 Apr 2010, 08:20 »

if I was marten I would only do this for Dora if Dora and Faye did it first right then and there. Knowing Faye wouldnt go through with it and Dora making out with her brother's sorta-ex would probably turn her off as well.

Carl-E · « **Reply #167 on:** 08 Apr 2010, 08:32 »

OK, been thinkin' (is it getting warm in here?)

Faye's "Douuuuuche" was kind of uncalled for. "Horndoooogg", maybe.

As for Steve's apparent ability to divorce sex from emotional involvement, bravo. Most people aren't really able to do that - there's wiring nvolved, both social and, some would argue, evolutionary. A lot of people who think they can seperate the two are actually fooling themselves, and it leads to problems later.

And that's the S*P tie in, too. I remembered that arc, but a little refresher wasn't a bad thing. The girl he turned down was pulling a Marigold - she'd been acting in a play Davan was directing, had been crushing on him, then tracked him to his home and aproached him. It wasn't "just for fun", there was some serious emotional involvement there. And Davan, havng come off a long term committed relationship, and knowing he wasn't over it, would have wound up hurting this girl. So he did the right thing, as he so often does*.

Aubrey of course mocked him for it. That's just who she is. And that's what was quoted.

"The more you know!"

*Davan is actually a lot more self-aware than most people. That's why he's frequently depressed, pessimistic and generally misanthropic. Makes for great reading, if you haven't.

Near Lurker · « **Reply #168 on:** 08 Apr 2010, 08:39 »

On another note: Marten, how did you not see this coming? Have you even met Dora before?

raoullefere · « **Reply #169 on:** 08 Apr 2010, 10:59 »

Quote from: Carl-E on 08 Apr 2010, 08:32

OK, been thinkin' (is it getting warm in here?)

Faye's "Douuuuuche" was kind of uncalled for. "Horndoooogg", maybe.

I'll buy that, mainly because Steve, so far as I know, doesn't know Marigold. It's one thing to 'take what is offered' when you think it's casual, and another when you're fair certain the other person is going into this wanting more, and still another when you know she hasn't the experience to realize simply offering you her body isn't the way to get it*. (Remember, Marigold didn't say, "I wanna get laid" —she said, "I think we can be more.") If Steve did the one-night thing with a girl he absolutely knew was expecting him to be the love of her life afterward without correcting her first, then, then we say "Douuuuuche." 'Cause that's taking advantage and hurting, all to get your rocks off, which isn't, for non-douches, anyway, the primary concern.

And Tomart, Sven damned well did know he'd screwed up—why else was he prepared for the lies next day? He knew Faye was going to be hurt, that's why. Anyone who goes into their relationships like a fucking lawyer** (Hey, it's what she said we were, and I argue that this means…) is almost guaranteed to stomp on hearts. There's feelings involved, and many, many people are atrocious about talking about them, Faye not the least. Of course, that's great for anyone who doesn't give a shit about the other person (see douche). But if you care about the person, even if you're as clueless as Angus can be, you have to think about what's not being said, but that you know exists within the person. That's called being a friend, and I hope, anyway, that friendship comes before fucking. Faye was right: Angus is a good man. Sven, not so much, although he may be trying now.

Better stop there—outta breath. Damn the pollen.

*Or he. And, like it or not, Western cultural convention makes this appear to be a viable transaction, depicting it endlessly in TV, novels, religion, what have you. Don't like it? Suck it up—it's how it is at the moment. You can detest it, want to change it, try to change it, but you can't say it doesn't exist, or refuse to deal with it when a naive person tries to make the exchange. Want to change the world? Start with caring about the person next to you. And yes, Carl, I sometimes think it would make the world better if we could divorce sex from automatic emotional involvement. But we ain't there yet, probably because we need more emotional involvement that's not dependent on sex.

**Literally, I suppose

lhasafi · « **Reply #170 on:** 08 Apr 2010, 11:56 »

Poor Marten. They guy just can't catch a break. It seems everytime someone gets screwed (in the figurative sense of the word, thankyouverymuch) it's Marten. What has the guy done to deserve this?

Moxie · « **Reply #171 on:** 08 Apr 2010, 12:01 »

What has Marten done? Been the main character of a comic.

Border Reiver · « **Reply #172 on:** 08 Apr 2010, 12:03 »

And is a master of "Open mouth, insert foot"-jutsu.

Besides the author has to pick someone to be the butt of the jokes

blindeye · « **Reply #173 on:** 08 Apr 2010, 12:14 »

I desire "EMERGENCY BOOZE" stickers.

If you print them, I will buy.

wargrafix · « **Reply #174 on:** 08 Apr 2010, 12:53 »

Faye is the automated twat. I need those stickers too.

Is it cold in here? · « **Reply #175 on:** 08 Apr 2010, 13:00 »

Quote from: 0kamisama on 08 Apr 2010, 03:29

Dora's reaction was easy enough to predict, but I was surprised to see that Faye seems to be developing a liking for guy-on-guy action as well. I almost expected her to bail for the storage room or get the spray bottle for Dora. Nice to see that she's starting to loosen up a little more.

Faye has considered watching guys make out.

Carl-E · « **Reply #176 on:** 08 Apr 2010, 15:09 »

Quote from: raoullefere on 08 Apr 2010, 10:59

<snip>

And yes, Carl, I sometimes think it would make the world better if we could divorce sex from automatic emotional involvement. But we ain't there yet, probably because we need more emotional involvement that's not dependent on sex.

Yes, we do indeed need more emotional involvement that doesn't depend on sex. But I really don't think we'll ever be able to divorce sex from emotional involvement. Sex is too deeply involved with the pleasure centers of the brain, and they - both chemically and neurally - are inexorably tied to the emotional centers of the brain.

Not that people haven't tried to sever those ties. Some people can rationalize it away, but they're fooling themselves, and usually pay some kind of price for it at some point (no, not karma or god's wrath - usually "just" psychological problems later in life).

That's not to say that a good roll in the hay can't just be for fun, but you'll always remember it fondly... I know I do!

Akima · « **Reply #177 on:** 08 Apr 2010, 18:53 »

Quote from: Carl-E on 08 Apr 2010, 08:32

Faye's "Douuuuuche" was kind of uncalled for. "Horndoooogg", maybe.

Well... Steve is a bit of a douche, quite frankly (IMHO at least, your mileage may vary, but he's even got the hair.), with a long record of brief, serial relationships, sometimes thrown over for self-admittedly shallow reasons. To be fair though, Steve does at least seem to be a serial monogamist. But random drunken screwing, especially of sexually inexperienced people, is generally a very bad idea. Is Marigold baby-proofed for example? Though Steve probably carries Emergency Condoms at least. I suppose it depends how harsh an insult you consider "douche" to be.

Nice to see Steve again though; stubble, sidies, and all.

Carl-E · « **Reply #178 on:** 08 Apr 2010, 20:32 »

Quote from: Akima on 08 Apr 2010, 18:53

...but he's even got the hair.

GAAAH!!!

Looks like my graduating class. Only more hair gel.

quats · « **Reply #179 on:** 08 Apr 2010, 21:41 »

Quote from: lunakitten on 07 Apr 2010, 22:21

Quote from: Carl-E on 07 Apr 2010, 21:59
Well, it's common knowledge that a lot of men get turned on by lesbian sex. But to be honest, I don't know of many (alright, any) women who'd be turned on by gay male sex...

Of course, most of the women I know are lesbians. Their consensus is that male bodies are icky, so not fun to watch.

I know a LOT of straight and bi women who are REALLY turned on by the thought/sight of 2 men together. Me included. Possibly why I only ever dated bi men...

I think it's the same basic principle: two people who "should" be attracted to you.... and then you can so easily picture yourself in the middle.

I suspect the biggest reason some find the idea gross is the cultural indoctrination against male homosexuality; take out that factor and you'd have just as many women drooling over male/male couplings as men do female on female. The thought of men grinding on each other to attract women in bars, the way a lot of women fake it to attract men, amuses me.

Near Lurker · « **Reply #180 on:** 08 Apr 2010, 21:57 »

It's not entirely alien to me... although perhaps not in bars. I suspect I'm just ahead of the generation where it will become commonplace... then again, it wasn't that uncommon when I was that (under) age. Maybe it's just not the bar crowd's thing.

There already is the stereotype of the straight man who goes to/"ruins" gay bars because of the women who go to see gay men make out. And, of course, a host of emo/goth stereotypes.

0kamisama · « **Reply #181 on:** 08 Apr 2010, 22:02 »

Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 08 Apr 2010, 13:00

Quote from: 0kamisama on 08 Apr 2010, 03:29
Dora's reaction was easy enough to predict, but I was surprised to see that Faye seems to be developing a liking for guy-on-guy action as well. I almost expected her to bail for the storage room or get the spray bottle for Dora. Nice to see that she's starting to loosen up a little more.
Faye has considered watching guys make out.

Thank you, QC archivist! I guess I was mostly picturing this side of Faye in relation to the most recent comic.

zagraf · « **Reply #182 on:** 09 Apr 2010, 03:03 »

Chili and pop rocks in a...Not a blackboard-"menu" joke but something a customer wants to...Whatwhatwhat *HEAD-EXPLOSION*

...If I were in Marten's shoes, I'd be grateful my GF didn't tell me about the secret menu, if that's typical of the stuff on it. I'd consider her not tellling me a sign of her love.

~~Schmorgluck~~ · « **Reply #183 on:** 09 Apr 2010, 03:04 »

Muhahaha! Never assume someone knows a secret if you haven't told them yourself, Dora.

EDIT: as for chili and pop rocks in a mocha... well, I don't know how pop rocks would do, but I almost always put chili in my mocha, and it's awesome.

LTK · « **Reply #184 on:** 09 Apr 2010, 03:06 »

DAAAAAAALE

akronnick · « **Reply #185 on:** 09 Apr 2010, 03:14 »

Was Marten a regular CoD customer before he met Faye? MAybe he had been there a few times, (long enough for Sara to be crushing on him) but not long enough for Faye and Him to know each other when they met at the bar. Also, Dora didn't know him until Faye introduced him.

That leads me to beleive that the CoD staff don't think of him as a customer, but more like a friend, ergo, not someone who would

This of course leads to two very important questions:

First, does Dale sing and/or play guitar good enough to warrant an audition with Deathmole?

And second, does Angus know about the secret menu?

Strike Reyhi · « **Reply #186 on:** 09 Apr 2010, 03:17 »

Marten is not getting a break it seems.

lhasafi · « **Reply #187 on:** 09 Apr 2010, 03:23 »

Quote from: Strike Reyhi on 09 Apr 2010, 03:17

Marten is not getting a break it seems.

No. He most definitely is not. I mean, come on, the guy's basically been living at CoD for Ceilingcat knows how long, lives with two of their employees - and is still oblivious of the secret menu? What next?

Tuitsuro · « **Reply #188 on:** 09 Apr 2010, 03:24 »

Secret Menus tend to suck. Case in point: McDonald's Land, Sea and Air burger consisting of a beef, fish, and chicken patty on a bun...

jeanramone · « **Reply #189 on:** 09 Apr 2010, 03:30 »

Foreshadowing of Dora/Marten problems or a way to introduce Dale? Time will tell I guess.

0kamisama · « **Reply #190 on:** 09 Apr 2010, 03:32 »

Quote from: Tuitsuro on 09 Apr 2010, 03:24

Secret Menus tend to suck. Case in point: McDonald's Land, Sea and Air burger consisting of a beef, fish, and chicken patty on a bun...

Not always. Take In-N-Out Burger's secret menu, for example.

Oh, Jeph and your wacky weekend cliffhangers... Anywho, I'm guessing after about 3 or 4 days (our time) of arguing, things will be back to 'fantastic make-up sex' normal for Dora and Marten again.

Tuitsuro · « **Reply #191 on:** 09 Apr 2010, 03:42 »

Quote from: 0kamisama on 09 Apr 2010, 03:32

Not always. Take In-N-Out Burger's secret menu, for example.

Yeah, I was just watching a video of a guy's escapades into trying to order a 1024x1024 burger...

Border Reiver · « **Reply #192 on:** 09 Apr 2010, 03:52 »

Ah secrets - trouble for the relationship. Even if they have nothing to do with the relationship.

Drama for next week, maybe, possibly, if his nibs so decides.

Akima · « **Reply #193 on:** 09 Apr 2010, 04:13 »

First chimichangas and now Pop-Rocks. If it weren't for Google I wouldn't know what the hell you guys were talking about!

Quote from: Tuitsuro on 09 Apr 2010, 03:24

Secret Menus tend to suck.

Not so! Many Chinese restaurants have a secret me- choke, gurk, gurgle... <loss of signal>

jwhouk · « **Reply #194 on:** 09 Apr 2010, 04:14 »

Quote

Marten's look in the last panel of 1639 is because:

he was actually joking.    - 4 (5.8%)
Steve actually liked giving tongue.    - 11 (15.9%)
It's not the first time he's been asked to do this.    - 32 (46.4%)
His dad did this to him once.    - 1 (1.4%)
He hasn't brushed his teeth yet.    - 2 (2.9%)
No pancakes are involved.    - 7 (10.1%)
He suddenly realized he's in a webcomic.    - 12 (17.4%)

Total Voters: 69

And we HAVE to come up with the items on the secret menu...

Dliessmgg · « **Reply #195 on:** 09 Apr 2010, 04:28 »

#34: Fetish Latte

On a related note: In German, "Latte" is sometimes used as penis.

Edit: #23: Conspiracy Coffee

MegaLexi · « **Reply #196 on:** 09 Apr 2010, 04:31 »

Quote from: zagraf on 09 Apr 2010, 03:03

Chili and pop rocks in a...Not a blackboard-"menu" joke but something a customer wants to...Whatwhatwhat *HEAD-EXPLOSION*

...If I were in Marten's shoes, I'd be grateful my GF didn't tell me about the secret menu, if that's typical of the stuff on it. I'd consider her not tellling me a sign of her love.

I've heard worse. Went to Sonic tonight for dinner, and was talking with the cashier. He had a lady order a slush with BBQ sauce and ranch in it. And she drank it, right there in the store.

snubnose · « **Reply #197 on:** 09 Apr 2010, 04:43 »

Hmm.

This black guy looks like a white guy who painted his skin brown and wears an afro wig.

snubnose · « **Reply #198 on:** 09 Apr 2010, 04:47 »

Quote from: Dliessmgg on 09 Apr 2010, 04:28

On a related note: In German, "Latte" is sometimes used as penis.

Err, not surprisingly, considering that its mainly a word for "stick" or "timber".

Also, theres a ton of nonstandard words for penis, errection, vagina etc around.

Random832 · « **Reply #199 on:** 09 Apr 2010, 05:16 »

Quote from: Tuitsuro on 09 Apr 2010, 03:24

Secret Menus tend to suck. Case in point: McDonald's Land, Sea and Air burger consisting of a beef, fish, and chicken patty on a bun...

I don't believe that this is a 'secret menu item' with any official status.

Half of the things on the so-called 'secret menu items' lists are either discontinued or seasonal items (but which have actually been on the menu), straightforward combinations of things that no-one would have any trouble ordering ("fries with big mac sauce" is not a secret menu item), or stuff someone made up and gave a name to.

As for the "Land, Sea, and Air burger" - evidence points to the third. http://www.eatmedaily.com/2009/09/the-land-sea-and-air-burger-on-playboys-eat-me-video/ - no more a "secret menu item" than the "McGangBang"

http://www.asylum.com/2010/03/31/secret-menu-items-mcdonalds-chilis-burger-king-kfc/?icid=main
# Big Mac with Quarter Pounder Patties - This is great if you are looking to decrease the cost and calories of the classic Big Mac Sandwich. You get the entire flavor with less meat.

There were other problem items, but this one was the most ridiculous example of 'did not do the research' - whoever wrote this description has either never eaten a big mac or has never eaten either a quarter pounder or the described item.

THESE FORUMS NOW CLOSED (read only)

Poll

What's your favorite CoD secret menu item?

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