Comic Discussion > QUESTIONABLE CONTENT
WCT April 26-30, 2010 (1651-1655)
Dliessmgg:
--- Quote from: westrim on 29 Apr 2010, 07:20 ---Though as far as I know there isn't much dark or milk chocolate in Switzerland, except maybe in diplomatic circles.
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:laugh:
Milk chocolate is probably one of the most frequently seen chocolate in Switzerland. After looking at Wiki, I'm a bit confused about the difference of dark chocolate and couverture, but you can buy chocolate with 70% and 85% cocoa at department stores and they produce stuff with 90% and 99%, but I haven't seen them irl yet.
JackFaerie:
--- Quote from: APolaris on 29 Apr 2010, 09:06 ---
I can certainly understand the part about people who move too fast, but for the rest of your point, in short:
Guy who's insecure because he hates the idea of being arrogant about himself and considers humility a good trait, therefore is willing to admit when he's wrong and unlikely to ever stray = red flag.
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Um, no. Insecure != modest or humble. TOTALLY DIFFERENT. Neither does "faithful"="insecure." Ohmygod.
--- Quote from: APolaris on 29 Apr 2010, 09:06 ---Guy who's "clingy" after knowing the person, but really that word's sole function is to demonize those who appreciate what they have and are always there for the person instead of fitting the "social norm" of cheating, betraying and lying = red flag.
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Still no. Appreciative, affectionate, and attached !=clingy. And wtf kind of world do you live in where cheating and lying are social norms?!
--- Quote from: APolaris on 29 Apr 2010, 09:06 ---Guy who's overly confident (which we all know is really just another word used to describe the same trait as arrogance when one wants to make it seem justifiable because the person is physically attractive) and therefore much more likely to cheat, is loud, brash, annoying, and less likely to be sensitive towards the partner's feelings or care about being there for them because he's too busy fitting the male stereotype = not a red flag.
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Yeahhhhhh... confident or "not smothering" doesn't equal any of that. Although even if it did: the point is, if the guy turns out to be an arrogant jerk, you can LEAVE him. The scary thing about clingers is that they won't let you leave.
And honestly, look, if you can't tell the difference between insecure vs modest, clingy vs loving, or arrogant vs confident, then THAT's a giant red flag. Like, you have just kind of made me uncomfortable because I'm creeped out that in your world, one can't be loving without being clingy, faithfulness somehow depends on or goes along with insecurity, and any display of confidence=automatic asshole (who you of course look down on sneeringly from your Sensitive Unappreciated Nice Guy vantage point).
Heliphyneau:
--- Quote from: westrim on 29 Apr 2010, 07:20 ---
--- Quote from: Dliessmgg on 29 Apr 2010, 04:00 ---
--- Quote from: Heliphyneau on 28 Apr 2010, 15:59 ---dark chocolate is for women
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Funny, in my family it's the other way round. Dad and I prefer dark chocolate, mom likes milk chocolate and my sister prefers white chocolate.
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I'm pretty sure I'm not reading that the way you meant it. Though as far as I know there isn't much dark or milk chocolate in Switzerland, except maybe in diplomatic circles.
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Hmm, I re-read my own post and I did leave open the possibility for individual variation: "dark chocolate seems more like something a woman would want." Different people have different tastes, and I know plenty of women who like milk chocolate, and even that atrocity white "chocolate," but most of the dark chocolate enthusiasts I know are female. It'd be interesting to see how that preference breaks down worldwide, but I don't have the bucks to fund a global science experiment on chocolate, more's the pity. I'm a bit weirded out by the notion that there isn't much milk or dark chocolate in Switzerland, but I expect that's more a matter of semantics, as Dliessmgg pointed out. 99% cacao content pretty much equals unsweetened, though, and I'm not so hardcore into chocolate that I can eat that.
The "clingy" debate raging on in here seems laregly borne of semantics as well, and while I'm not prepared to say "all men are like _____" or "all women are like _____", I will say that men who are more inclined to be very controlling and jealous are more likely to be the ones who kill their girlfriends to prevent said girlfriends from ever leaving them, even with as small a trigger as her looking admiringly at another guy. Most "clingy" people eventually get over their insecurities enough to respect other people's boundaries -- it's just a matter of growing up and learning to trust -- but the worst-case scenario does exist. (Reading police files on spousal/partner abuse and murders = very depressing.)
Back to the strip, I wonder who will walk in and see Dora duct-taping Faye first, Marten, Angus, or Sven. Or maybe they'll all show up and run into Dale, who will be back for yet another absurd coffee confection. I'm actually kind of hoping Momo will notice the Tyrannospresso. ^_^
raoullefere:
The only really interesting thing about the 'clingy' debate (and need I remind anyone that one person's 'clingy' may be the next's affectionate; one person's modest, the next's insecure; one person's confident, the next's arrogant; and so on?) is this:
--- Quote from: JackFaerie on 29 Apr 2010, 10:44 ---The scary thing about clingers is that they won't let you leave.
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(My, these clingers must be powerful indeed, if they can immobilize one…)
Followed by this:
--- Quote from: JackFaerie on 29 Apr 2010, 00:56 ---Mind you, I can be clingy.
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Sounds like a threat.
--- Quote from: Carl-E on 29 Apr 2010, 03:00 ---
--- Quote from: raoullefere on 29 Apr 2010, 01:59 ---...nor be as painful coming off*.
*Naturally, I'm assuming that last point.
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You mean you're still wearing it?
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Uf ourse ot.
Carl-E:
Here, let me help you with that... [RIIIIIIIIP!]
Umm, you weren't really attached to the moustache, were you?
I mean, as soon as the bleeding stops, I'm sure it'll grow back.
Oh, and I have to agree - clingy is in the eye of the beholder. Sometimes what starts out appearing as caring and attentive can become clingy over time. The reverse however is rarely true!
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