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WCT May 3-7, 2010 (1656-1660)

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Is it cold in here?:

--- Quote from: Heliphyneau on 03 May 2010, 21:39 ---It's all well and good to fuck around, as long as everyone you're fucking around with knows and accepts that you aren't gonna be monogamous.

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The key point. This is what justifies the negative reaction to Sven. He was two-timing Genevieve (680) and although we don't know, we can guess what set off the Quebecouis girlfriend (can't find the strip! I'm a failure!) and the one who threw his guitar out the window (531).

Re: Tomart --
Is there a reason to think Marigirl understands the social game well enough to try for a trophy boyfriend?

zagraf:
Am I the only one who thinks that what Faye's doing to Momo--who, like the other AnthroPCs, is a sentient being with feelings and not a toy--is really assholish behaviour? And then, in the last panel, she dares to tell Sven to "stop that," when his "Boo" was nothing compared to what she's doing? I've just lost a lot of respect for Faye.  :x

tomart:

--- Quote from: Heliphyneau on 03 May 2010, 21:39 ---It's all well and good to fuck around, as long as everyone you're fucking around with knows and accepts that you aren't gonna be monogamous.
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The key point, indeed!!  Maybe because I've been an adult for the same decades as female empowerment, I've seen women playing the same games as men. I'm not going back to parse every affair of Sven's, to figure out who accepted his obvious wandering, and who was mightily (foolishly) offended. Did most of those blondes really believe she was his One And Only??


--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 04 May 2010, 01:16 ---Re: Tomart --
Is there a reason to think Marigirl understands the social game well enough to try for a trophy boyfriend?

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She probably does in theory, from so many anime plotlines around social games, but not experience. So any moves toward Sven would be stepping into deep waters for her... hence Dora's concern. I'm the last person to want to see Marigold hurt, but I have respect for her resilience and inner strength, unlike some. She has been pushing herself out of her comfort zones, and may be getting googly-eyes for Sven (that guest strip art was good!) but someone should warn her that she'd only be another notch for him.

But more importantly, there are dramatic possibilities for Jeph here!

raoullefere:
Christ, he's flirting! Kick 'em inna fork!


--- Quote from: tomart on 04 May 2010, 00:39 ---Several comments on Dora and Faye's overreacting. Is it breaking down on gender lines? Is it cuz I'm a guy that I say, give Sven a fucking break and stop being all Holier Than Thou?  I hated Sven's casual disregard of womens' feelings as much as anyone, but I don't feel he's in the wrong here.

Remember that Faye did NOT want commitment! So as crummy as you think the drunken Gina Riversmith slip was, STOP beating Sven up about it and putting Faye on a pedestal! If Faye was so hurt by Sven's slippage, THAT'S ON HER!  Or is this a Female-Entitlement issue, that you can declare a fuck-buddy relationship, but really mean YOU OWN HIM?  I call Double-Standard!


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Again, Dora's reaction is not about Faye. This is about Sven's lifetime of behavior, either douchy or non-thinking (the Faye thing is just a part of that), have it as you will, catching up to him.


--- Quote from: westrim on 03 May 2010, 14:58 ---Michi-love, other peoples, you got that backwards. Her "friends" were fucking around with her brother. He didn't go after them, they went after him. Some guys are really bad at saying no to unattached sexing, and he's one of them.

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You write as though Sven simply picked up some  of Dora's friends at school. They went after him in the Bianchi house, sleeping over with Dora and posing as her friend just so they could get to Sven's room. Even the dimmest bulb would have to figure that out after a while, and whatever else he may be, I've seen no evidence that Sven is stupid. What I have seen plenty of evidence for is that he tries really hard not to take any responsibility for any damage, any hurt he causes.

Sven put his dick before his sister's self-esteem and feelings, which tells me he is a dick, or was. I don't really think he actually sets out to be such, but I also don't think Sven spends much time, if any, worrying about what happens to other people, and the damage he causes is the same. That means that Dora, who does care about what happens to other people (probably as a result of being shit on by her brother), winds up having to run interference to save her friendships or just to save girls she likes from being screwed over, literally. Having to be Sven's 'keeper,' taking responsibility because he won't, is enough to make anyone edgy, to say the least—hence the blow-up a few comics before the one I linked to. Want any more proof? His thought is never "I might hurt someone," is it? It's "Dora's going to kill me." Christ, Sven lets his sister be his conscience. After all, why should he have do that job?

And, no, Sven doesn't deserve a break about the subject until he actually shows he's changed, and moping in a bar doesn't exactly scream change to me—it could just as easily mean "poor me, I feel bad, and I don't know why." And Dora's nicer than she should be: right now, she could (and possibly should) be whacking him on the back of the head. Yes, you could say "Sven doesn't know what Marigold's situation is, yadda yadda," but the truth is, until he shows her otherwise, that as far as Dora knows, he doesn't care. So she has to play grown man (and I use the term very loosely)'s conscience again.

TheReaper:
I still WANT to dislike Sven, but dammit if he isn't growing on me like...a rash, I guess?
Though he'd probably know more about itching than anyone else.


--- Quote from: westrim on 04 May 2010, 00:17 ---
--- Quote from: Shadic on 04 May 2010, 00:02 ---Is it just me, or has Marigold gotten more socially retarded?

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It's hard to tell. It might be that its just the increased frequen- wait, she was almost perfectly fine at the Smif nerd-con, so nevermind, she does seem to be getting worse. I mean, she can't even frigging talk in this one.

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She did just accidentally mug some dude of his interesting reading and then run into him at a coffee shop. And "almost" is the key word there, because she still managed to panic and fumble her flee action.

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