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WCT: 7-11 June 2010 (1681-1685)
JackFaerie:
Odin:
--- Quote from: Nightson on 10 Jun 2010, 04:19 ---
--- Quote from: Odin on 10 Jun 2010, 03:18 ---The fact that she is still pining away over Angus to the point where the very notion of him flirting with someone else causes her to flee the area is objectively damning when it comes to talking about how mature she is.
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Oh please. She had a crush on him, a fairly strong one by all indications. And now very recently after being let down, she is faced with "He didn't want me because he wants another girl" And that stings like fuck all. Trying to portray seeking a moment of away time to compose herself as some sort of sign of emotional immaturity is ridiculous.
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Agreed. So is saying that she's a "hyper-sensitive attention-whoring bitch" for being offended, when you're the only one who's saying she's offended in the first place. (The comic certainly doesn't.)
But you, uh, seem to have an issue in this particular debate at arguing against points that you're making up yourself--for instance, I never said that anyone was obligated to tell Marigold about Faye and Angus, so I have no idea what you're talking about here:
--- Quote ---you still think Marten (or anybody else) should have babied Marigold and told her about Angus going after Faye?
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Another point: when people run out of a party to sit by themselves on the porch, they usually do that because they're trying to escape attention.
Going up to Faye and Angus and yelling at them about it would have been immature. What she's doing? Totally fine.
TAG:
--- Quote from: JackFaerie on 09 Jun 2010, 23:38 ---Well, Jeph's said he finds drawing Dora difficult. I would say that he's drawing her eyes too small, and her jaw/cheeks too round. A rounder face looks good on Faye and Marigold, who have different proportions and longer hair to frame their faces, but on Dora it just looks out of balance and like her lower face is swollen. And a round jaw in combination with the small eyes and short hair makes her look unnecessarily butch.
See?
*Image Snipped*
Although also, man, that haircut is just not the most flattering.
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Ah nice, I thought something looked off with Dora in that panel, but just thought it was the hair. Nice alteration.
The expression in panel 6 was really well drawn though.
jwhouk:
Came across a "Word Of God" quote from 1473, about how self-aware Marigold isn't:
--- Quote ---"...I don't think Marigold is really like that* (and last thing my comic needs is yet another super-detached female character who is constantly self-analyzing and quipping about everything she says)."
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(* - being self-aware)
Odin:
--- Quote from: stevelore on 10 Jun 2010, 03:39 ---
--- Quote from: Odin on 10 Jun 2010, 03:18 ---
--- Quote from: stevelor ---I'm a bitch!
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You should spend more time being offended by Marigold's character "development" after drawing parallels between her relationships with Angus and Faye compared to Marten's track in his relationships with Faye and Dora (short version: the guy pretty quickly gets over himself and dates someone else; the chick refuses to take the hint and is becoming steadily more unstable/unlikeable).
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Actually, it's spelled "Stevelore".
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Care to actually respond to my point, or are you just going to stick with validating it?
--- Quote from: Nightson on 10 Jun 2010, 04:19 ---
--- Quote from: Odin on 10 Jun 2010, 03:18 ---The fact that she is still pining away over Angus to the point where the very notion of him flirting with someone else causes her to flee the area is objectively damning when it comes to talking about how mature she is.
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Oh please. She had a crush on him, a fairly strong one by all indications. And now very recently after being let down, she is faced with "He didn't want me because he wants another girl" And that stings like fuck all. Trying to portray seeking a moment of away time to compose herself as some sort of sign of emotional immaturity is ridiculous.
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Marigold has never sought a "moment" of away time to compose herself in her entire history of the comic. Every time she's fled from something she has absolutely refused to return to it without some form of extreme threat that is even worse than what she's running from going after her (like Momo threatening to tell Angus that she'd masturbated herself into a state of severe dehydration if she didn't stop moping and get out of the house).
And even that aside, no mentally healthy adult mopes the way Marigold does whenever they don't get their way. Period.
--- Quote from: JackFaerie on 10 Jun 2010, 06:30 ---Odin:
--- Quote from: Nightson on 10 Jun 2010, 04:19 ---
--- Quote from: Odin on 10 Jun 2010, 03:18 ---The fact that she is still pining away over Angus to the point where the very notion of him flirting with someone else causes her to flee the area is objectively damning when it comes to talking about how mature she is.
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Oh please. She had a crush on him, a fairly strong one by all indications. And now very recently after being let down, she is faced with "He didn't want me because he wants another girl" And that stings like fuck all. Trying to portray seeking a moment of away time to compose herself as some sort of sign of emotional immaturity is ridiculous.
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Agreed. So is saying that she's a "hyper-sensitive attention-whoring bitch" for being offended, when you're the only one who's saying she's offended in the first place. (The comic certainly doesn't.)
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Panels 2, 3, & 4 read more like being offended over not being straight-up told something than actually hurt over the context.
And I'm not saying she's a hyper-sensitive attention whoring bitch because she's offended, but because of how she's consistently reacting to everything even remotely negative the same way (dramatic exit, refusal to return until someone begs or threatens her into doing it).
--- Quote ---But you, uh, seem to have an issue in this particular debate at arguing against points that you're making up yourself--for instance, I never said that anyone was obligated to tell Marigold about Faye and Angus, so I have no idea what you're talking about here:
--- Quote ---you still think Marten (or anybody else) should have babied Marigold and told her about Angus going after Faye?
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Maybe that wasn't you arguing that, but one of you people were (using much of the same reasoning you had in your point #2 as the basis for it, which is probably why I thought you said it).
--- Quote ---Another point: when people run out of a party to sit by themselves on the porch, they usually do that because they're trying to escape attention.
Going up to Faye and Angus and yelling at them about it would have been immature. What she's doing? Totally fine.
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Way to completely ignore my previous post saying she should have actually talked to Angus about it, or talked to Marten/Tai/Hannelore rather than running off like an overgrown teenager.
snubnose:
I'm kinda wondering a lot now what Marigold will do now.
I mean, even she should know that a woman with such an "equipment" can basically get any man she wants.
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