Comic Discussion > QUESTIONABLE CONTENT
WCT: 7-11 June 2010 (1681-1685)
Prince of Space:
--- Quote from: Tuitsuro on 07 Jun 2010, 18:05 --- But, I think if either Marten or Angus were to say to Faye, 'Don't hit me anymore', she'd probably get the message and back off.
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THIS. Marten should've done that a long time ago. Hopefully Angus will call her out on it.
Nightson:
--- Quote from: JackFaerie on 07 Jun 2010, 16:26 ---
--- Quote from: Nightson on 07 Jun 2010, 15:36 ---
The friends don't matter in this situation because they aren't the ones being acted on, the drunk girl is and how she feels about it is what matters.
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Um. So if the drunk girl has low self-esteem or other issues, and when she wakes up decides that "she probably deserved it"or it wasn't such a big deal (and maybe it's happened before), that makes it ok? NO, because the act is despicable regardless of the victim's tolerance for it.
In many parts of the world, groups of guys DO consider it "ok" to take advantage of women, and women are encouraged to just buck up and accept it too. Still doesn't make it ok.
In other parts of the world, it isn't considered out of the ordinary for a man to beat his wife, and if she gets hit, the wife doesn't consider leaving her husband because "it's not really a big deal," "he only hits me, it's not like he breaks bones or does real damage" and "it's just something all women have to deal with." Still doesn't make it ok.
For a less emotionally abrasive example, take drinking--something else Faye has a problem with, and which she's been called on (although not without prompting from someone outside her Dora-Marten inner circle). Imagine a group of friends where one of them drinks to the point of blacking out on a regular basis, acts dangerously when drunk, etc. Even if no one calls the drinker on the problem, and greet each blackout as "Oh well, haha, there goes Tom again!" "Oh, we keep that puke bucket specifically for Tommergencies"--that doesn't make Tom's behavior not a problem somehow. Outside observers are still entitled to look at the situation and go "uh, that's not good, and not ok."
I don't care that Dora, Marten and Angus for some reason have decided that "it's just Faye!" and they're willing to accept that behavior--it is unacceptable and they're enablers. She hits people to blow off steam or for fun or when she's irritated, and she leaves painful bruises. Not just "accidentally" or sometimes, but pretty much every time. She's punched Hannelore and bruised her! She thinks it is ok to hurt people for her entertainment or as a way of expressing displeasure. That is NOT an acceptable mindset, and I don't care what her friends think of it.
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In any act performed on someone, the opinion of the person being acted on is what matters. If someone gets hit, and is fine with it then there's nothing wrong with that. If someone gets hit, is not fine with it but says they're fine with it, well then that's not okay.
Lack of protest cannot be taken for consent in many, many cases, but it hitting someone in the arm it's a good indicator.
jwhouk:
There is only one way to stop all this.
Marigold snaps, goes into the kitchen and hauls off and knocks Faye into the middle of next week.
LeeC:
--- Quote from: jwhouk on 07 Jun 2010, 18:55 ---There is only one way to stop all this.
Marigold snaps, goes into the kitchen and hauls off and knocks Faye into the middle of next week.
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im for this, not because of faye, but because of how bad Tai would feel about blurting that out (granted she probably never knew the situation with merigold) and it would make for an interesting turn of events.
Tuitsuro:
--- Quote from: jwhouk on 07 Jun 2010, 18:55 ---There is only one way to stop all this.
Marigold snaps, goes into the kitchen and hauls off and knocks Faye into the middle of next week.
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Here's to hoping Marigold never played the School Days visual novel.
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