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The Quadrennial Global Round-Ball Extravaganza
Aurjay:
of course we had to wait till the last possible moment to score but at least we did and are advancing. Im predicting Germany beating Ghana and Serbia beating Australia so that should have us playing Serbia in the next round with England playing Germany. Not too bad of a schedule.
Thomas Edison:
I predict Ghana beating Germany and Australia beating Serbia 9-0.
a pack of wolves:
--- Quote from: KharBevNor on 23 Jun 2010, 00:47 ---I don't think you can say 'people enjoy it' is a real valid argument to shield professional football from all possible criticism. The fact that you can't reallly criticise football or hold it to any sort of moral standard without being shouted down because football is fun is probably one of the reasons football is such a gruesome fucking mess. It's certainly the reason no one really gives a shit about the resettlement camps and shit in South Africa. Yeah it's bad but FOOTBALL NA NA NA NA NA NA. I really can't believe you don't have some thoughts about the incredibly capitalistic nature of football, and the ghastly nationalist aspect of the world cup. Seriously. I know I don't enjoy the game but I think you should at least be able to see where I'm coming from. Wayne Rooney earns more money every week than a teacher, nurse or university lecturer does every year. Do you think a society in which this is the case is in any way healthy?
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But his argument wasn't to restructure football so that clubs are non-profit organisations, or at least must be majority-owned by supporters' trusts. He was arguing that it should be abolished because it provides a distraction from the horrors of capitalism. Which isn't true, anyway. In mainstream society football supporters are one of the groups most keenly aware of the havoc that private owners can wreak upon something you care about. Others have shown how much better clubs can be when taken away from private enterprise, such as AFC Wimbledon and FC United Of Manchester (who have remaining non-profit and resisting commercialisation written into their constitution).
I've heard the exact same argument made by others who were arguing that music etc were terrible for the working class because it takes people's minds away from what capitalism is doing and makes them feel better. His argument is just as nonsensical as someone saying we should get rid of DIY music because major labels are terrible things. It stems from the elitist statist notion that the working class are sheep that need a strong party to come down and show them the divine light, the intellectual elite will lead us to the promised land and we should shut up and do as we're told, but in order for that to happen life must be barren so that there is nothing to mask the workings of capital. The exact same thing that Emma Goldman called bullshit on when she was told it wasn't seemly for a revolutionary to dance. I think you can see why I have utter contempt for his position.
KharBevNor:
--- Quote from: Thomas Edison on 23 Jun 2010, 02:46 ---Governments all across the world are being absolute tossers to their people, but right now we should feel worse for the South Africans because there is football there and Khar doesn't like football.
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I'm only being on topic. Jesus.
StaedlerMars:
Yay for Australia!
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