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Theory on Penelope
« on: 14 Jun 2010, 13:27 »

Perhaps Pen-Pen has a serious case of MPD, and goes around masquerading as Pizza Girl...AND The Vespavenger.
BUT WAIT! There's more...
Perhaps she is also Sara, who was thought to have been eaten by a dinosaur!
And she is the eyeglasses worker, seen in episode 275: Homeless Hipsters!
And she's Natasha!
And just about every other blonde who's appeared in the comic!
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Re: Theory on Penelope
« Reply #1 on: 14 Jun 2010, 13:30 »

Or she could be a time traveller who is every blonde in every work of fiction ever.
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Re: Theory on Penelope
« Reply #2 on: 14 Jun 2010, 14:30 »

Or she could be a time traveller who is every blonde in every work of fiction ever.

Penelope confirmed as Rose Tyler. 
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Re: Theory on Penelope
« Reply #3 on: 14 Jun 2010, 16:10 »

We've never seen any of those together at the same time ...
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Re: Theory on Penelope
« Reply #4 on: 15 Jun 2010, 09:54 »

Or she could be a time traveller who is every blonde in every work of fiction ever.

Penelope confirmed as Rose Tyler. 

Nah, Pen-Pen's teeth don't precede her into a room.   :wink:
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Re: Theory on Penelope
« Reply #5 on: 15 Jun 2010, 10:01 »

It all makes sense now! The question is, how long until the comic where she shifts personalities mid-conversation? Or mid having sex with Wil? She's all moaning when suddenly she shouts out "Oh Wil, deliver my pizza!"

AND THEN THEY ALL FUCKED!
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Re: Theory on Penelope
« Reply #6 on: 15 Jun 2010, 23:18 »

She's a Cylon.
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Re: Theory on Penelope
« Reply #7 on: 16 Jun 2010, 10:44 »

If she has many identities and costumes, is that mass-querading?
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Re: Theory on Penelope
« Reply #8 on: 16 Jun 2010, 22:52 »

She is the allosaurus. 

It takes on the characteristics of whoever it last ate. 

Mostly blondes, apparantly! 
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Re: Theory on Penelope
« Reply #9 on: 17 Jun 2010, 01:26 »

Or she could be a time traveller who is every blonde in every work of fiction ever.

Penelope confirmed as Rose Tyler. 
C'mon, she can be a pain, but Penelope's not that whiny.

She is the allosaurus. 
I find myself wondering what Lennon would think of that.
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Re: Theory on Penelope
« Reply #10 on: 17 Jun 2010, 02:09 »

She actually is an antelope. Or, more accurately, an antelope-derived humanoid developed by Hannerdad because he was bored one afternoon. She's actually only seven years old but due to the forced ageing and false memories, she's only subconsciously aware of this, but it makes her cranky anyways. Also, as an ungulate, she only has a life expectancy of thirty to thirty-five years, which will be tragic for Wil eventually, but drastically improve his poetry to the point he can actually make a living off of it. He just won't want to.


On second thought, maybe this should go in the jumping the shark thread?
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Re: Theory on Penelope
« Reply #11 on: 17 Jun 2010, 07:02 »

Or she could be a time traveller who is every blonde in every work of fiction ever.
Penelope confirmed as Rose Tyler. 
C'mon, she can be a pain, but Penelope's not that whiny.
She is the allosaurus. 
I find myself wondering what Lennon would think of that.

Koo-koo-ca-choo, I'd reckon.
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Re: Theory on Penelope
« Reply #12 on: 17 Jun 2010, 17:38 »

Actually, that was Paul Simon (in "Mrs. Robinson"). Lennon said "goo goo goo joob." Which, I suppose, shows what lots of drugs and smartass English masters will do for you.

She actually is an antelope. Or, more accurately, an antelope-derived humanoid developed by Hannerdad because he was bored one afternoon. She's actually only seven years old but due to the forced ageing and false memories, she's only subconsciously aware of this, but it makes her cranky anyways. Also, as an ungulate, she only has a life expectancy of thirty to thirty-five years, which will be tragic for Wil eventually, but drastically improve his poetry to the point he can actually make a living off of it. He just won't want to.


On second thought, maybe this should go in the jumping the shark thread?
<trying furiously to stop his hair from standing on end> MAYBE IT SHOULD!
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Re: Theory on Penelope
« Reply #13 on: 18 Jun 2010, 13:07 »

i have a much more reasonable theory:

penelope is sarah, but no plastic surgery or costumes or shapeshifting was necessary. the other characters simply did not recognize her due to jeph's drastically improved illustrative skills between her last appearance as sarah and her first as penelope.

qc can be very meta.
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Re: Theory on Penelope
« Reply #14 on: 18 Jun 2010, 13:49 »

and i don't think sarah was blonde or wore glasses either, J
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Re: Theory on Penelope
« Reply #15 on: 18 Jun 2010, 14:03 »

Sara was blonde but didn't wear glasses. Perhaps she was wearing contacts.
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Re: Theory on Penelope
« Reply #16 on: 18 Jun 2010, 14:35 »

[...]

qc can be very meta.

Why do I keep thinking of this? ;-)
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Re: Theory on Penelope
« Reply #17 on: 21 Jun 2010, 02:14 »

Penelope confirmed as Rose Tyler.
Nah... Penelope doesn't wear a kilo of eye makeup.
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Re: Theory on Penelope
« Reply #18 on: 21 Jun 2010, 02:17 »

not that you know of
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Re: Theory on Penelope
« Reply #19 on: 21 Jun 2010, 02:21 »

not that you know of
I'm a girl. We notice these things...  :angel:
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Re: Theory on Penelope
« Reply #20 on: 21 Jun 2010, 23:25 »

Then explain Lady Gaga
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« Reply #21 on: 21 Jun 2010, 23:29 »

she's an artist who makes catchy music?
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Re: Theory on Penelope
« Reply #22 on: 22 Jun 2010, 01:11 »

She gets banned from baseball games for wearing revealing clothing and sexing up the home team?  
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Re: Theory on Penelope
« Reply #23 on: 22 Jun 2010, 01:56 »

How did we go from Penelope to Lady Gaga?
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Re: Theory on Penelope
« Reply #24 on: 22 Jun 2010, 02:04 »

Then explain Lady Gaga
Lady Gaga may wear a lot of eye makeup, but she knows she does.
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Re: Theory on Penelope
« Reply #25 on: 22 Jun 2010, 02:39 »

We've never seen Pennelope and Lady Gaga together.
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Re: Theory on Penelope
« Reply #26 on: 22 Jun 2010, 08:31 »

Dammit, she's schmoozing herself into everywhere!

Gaaagaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!




(I just realized how infantile shouting that would make one sound. Chalk another win up to LG.)
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Re: Theory on Penelope
« Reply #27 on: 22 Jun 2010, 10:04 »

Penelope is Tai
and they're both Momo's human form. they're interchangeable
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Re: Theory on Penelope
« Reply #28 on: 22 Jun 2010, 23:45 »

She is a Founder
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Re: Theory on Penelope
« Reply #29 on: 23 Jun 2010, 03:17 »

Penelope is Tai
and they're both Momo's human form. they're interchangeable

Not possible, they've been in the same room at the same time.
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« Reply #30 on: 23 Jun 2010, 05:49 »

one of them is a remote controlled exosuit
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Re: Theory on Penelope
« Reply #31 on: 23 Jun 2010, 07:15 »

That would have to be Penelope, since Tai is the smaller of the two. 
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« Reply #32 on: 23 Jun 2010, 08:25 »

You are completely disregarding the possibility that BOTH are powered exoskeletons for Arkellian princesses. 
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Re: Theory on Penelope
« Reply #33 on: 23 Jun 2010, 10:20 »

Put a roach in front of them, see what happens. 
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Re: Theory on Penelope
« Reply #34 on: 23 Jun 2010, 23:14 »

And watch out for men in black suits.


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Re: Theory on Penelope
« Reply #35 on: 24 Jun 2010, 02:33 »

If she has many identities and costumes, is that mass-querading?
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Re: Theory on Penelope
« Reply #36 on: 24 Jun 2010, 09:33 »

We also have to take into account Penelope's Homeric namesake. Think about it: she remains faithfully behind while her lover goes off on a voyage of self-understanding.
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Re: Theory on Penelope
« Reply #37 on: 24 Jun 2010, 15:22 »

I won't, and you can't make me.

Anyway, my infantile tendencies aside, comparing Wil's journey to the Odyssey is stretching things a teeny bit. After all, I think Odysseus pretty much knew himself from the start (didn't want to leave, clever bastard, would do anything to get home). Too, we haven't seen Penelope weaving, keeping her legs crossed, or refusing marriage proposals from a hundred-odd men while Wil was gone.

On the other hand, she is bloody stubborn, an observation that I'm sure was made by more than one of the Suitors.
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Re: Theory on Penelope
« Reply #38 on: 24 Jun 2010, 15:25 »

All we hear is...
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Re: Theory on Penelope
« Reply #39 on: 24 Jun 2010, 21:03 »

Yeah, I guess it's a tenuous theory. The only incontrovertible parallel QC has with classical Greece is ubiquitous homosexuality.
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Re: Theory on Penelope
« Reply #40 on: 25 Jun 2010, 01:06 »

All we hear is...
Radio Gaga....
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Re: Theory on Penelope
« Reply #41 on: 25 Jun 2010, 06:55 »

Yeah, I guess it's a tenuous theory. The only incontrovertible parallel QC has with classical Greece is ubiquitous homosexuality.

Ubiquitous?  I haven't counted, but the proportion seems to be about the same as IRL.  You know, the "1 in 10" thing that's spouted all the time (but may well be incorrect, thank you, Dr. Kinsey). 

On the guy side you have Marten's dad, Maurice (if you choose to count him - he's more of a half-character as he was there as a foil), and Marten's old boss.  On the hetero side, you have Marten, Steve, Wil, Sven, Angus, Mr. Bianchi, Dave (? Meena's hubby), that trustee from the copy room incident, and ntil we know more about him I'm going to count Dale.  OK, so that's closer to 20%, but still...

Females?  You have Tai.  There are the other lesbians from her dorm (Brandi?), but again they're more like half-characters, having rare appearances with no real development.  I guess you could also count Dora as another half lesbian?  And that leaves us Faye, Hannelore, Raven, Penelope, Sarah (who wanted to ask Marten out), Meena, Victoria Vance, Mrs. Bianchi, Ellen, Cossette,... oh god, just trying to count the female characters is giving me a headache.  Oh yeah, and Dora counts as a half character on the straight side!

So really, ubiquitous?  I think you're suffering from something that a lot of straight people suffer from.  Due to a lack of exposure to homosexuality (or a lack of acknowledgment of it), when you finally spend some time around someone who's homosexual, it seems that the entire world has the gay.  And lately, we've been spending a good bit of time with Tai.  Well, she's been in the room.

One of the funnier things that happens when you spend time with gay people is that you find out a lot of the people you didn't think were gay, really are! I've unfortunately been attending quite a few funerals recently (parents of friends), and I've found out a lot more about this town than I ever wanted to know... there's something about a funeral that brings out every little piece of "dirt" about the entire extended family.  My recent favorite involved the matriarch of a family of eight, and all five of the sons are closeted homosexuals, prominent in the community.  While two of them stayed single, the other three married, had children, later divorced... one of them was married to a lesbian friend of mine who caused quite a scandal when she came out after the divorce!

Ahh, fun times...
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Re: Theory on Penelope
« Reply #42 on: 25 Jun 2010, 08:14 »

The other aspect of QC that may make it seem like gay characters are prominent is their easy acceptance. With one exception, no one, so far, seems to be hiding (well, Marten's dad, but that's done and gone before the strip starts) their orientation, and no one seems to be upset by said either. Maybe that's the way it is up Nawth. Tip of the hat to Jeph for having the one character who does seem a little in the closet to be Faye's sister. Her mother's reaction is fairly typical, too, of those I've known; what we haven't got is the community's reaction. In some cases, ostracism is putting it mildly. Anyone read about the lesbian girl in north Mississippi a few months ago? Wanted to go to her senior prom with the person she was dating, a girl, natch, and the school canceled the entire fucking prom to keep the other kids from having to see that horror. And, well, there's <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/05/constance-mcmillen-fake-p_n_525856.html
">more[/url].

As for the Ancient Greeks, it sounds to me that, like many people, you've a limited understanding of exactly what was going on. Homosexuality was certainly not the path to instant pariahood it can be in the U.S., but it was much like pot in the Netherlands—okay in certain designated places, and used in certain ways, but not universally accepted.  I'll add that Ancient Greece does not seem to have been a good place and time to be a lesbian.



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Re: Theory on Penelope
« Reply #43 on: 25 Jun 2010, 14:59 »

Well, except for the isle of Lesbos. 
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« Reply #44 on: 25 Jun 2010, 19:37 »

Sounds like someone needs that greeting card Tai was talking about...
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« Reply #45 on: 25 Jun 2010, 20:20 »

That should have been universally acceptable. And I've never been clear if Lesbos was really a lesbian paradise or not, Sappho notwithstanding. I know the locals now aren't too fond of the connotations the rest of the world hangs on the noun 'Lesbian.'
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Re: Theory on Penelope
« Reply #46 on: 26 Jun 2010, 20:02 »

Some say she can change her fingerprints at will, and that the only reason she's still in the comic is because she draws herself in.

All we know is, she's called The Stig Penelope.

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Re: Theory on Penelope
« Reply #47 on: 26 Jun 2010, 20:26 »

Our tame librarian, The Stig Penelope.
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Re: Theory on Penelope
« Reply #48 on: 26 Jun 2010, 22:33 »

I'll add that Ancient Greece does not seem to have been a good place and time to be a lesbian.
Ancient Greece wasn't a good place and time to be a woman, full stop. Pretty much all cultures treat women as inferior beings, but the Ancient Greeks regarded us as not quite human.
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Re: Theory on Penelope
« Reply #49 on: 27 Jun 2010, 04:20 »

you're painting with a pretty wide brush there
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