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Dragon Age 2: Fuckin' Bitches, Stabbin' Dragons
Josefbugman:
Well, about 1? There is a fair old amount of speculation as to her being an Old God. So who knows she actually MIGHT be a dragon/sleeping ancient being.
I must admit I don't understand why people are crying "anime", I mean I can understand not liking the change to aesthetic (and personally I don't want to jump around for the new hurlocks) but I really don't see the anime comparisons. Even the weird hair is most likely something they would have given her in Origins had they the tech. Same as the Qunari and horns. And the fact that she eats, or at least is implied to do various horrific things, to templar’s that follow her shows that she doesn't really care as much as she might be trying to keep Morrigan from not getting badly damaged and missing out on her next form. Then again that is fanwank on my part.
And even in Origins they were setting her up as having survived, Morrigan says that she will "be back", so whilst the amulet may play into it I am not sure that she did not already have plans laid out. That and shape shifting in Flemeth's case? Well she might actually have appeared differently to different people, Morrigan mentions that she can appear beautiful to templars who are hunting her, and as a crone in other cases, so why not now?
And if you don't enjoy it then thats awesome. At least you aren't bitching about it like most of the people on the DA forums, and your points (whilst refutable) are all well thought out and smart. Sorry if this comes across as condescending its just nice to have someone to politely disagree with.
est:
Based on the demo I will not be buying this game. If I see something later to change my mind then I guess I'm open to reconsidering, seeing as the original was a really fun game. But there's evidence of so many shit decisions made, pushing the game very far away from what the first one was. I was overwhelmingly bored within the first 5-10 mins of the demo, while fast-paced fighting was happening. That is not supposed to happen in a demo. The fighting is just straight up boring, and the new controls are a bit of a clusterfuck.
KvP:
--- Quote from: Josefbugman on 26 Feb 2011, 01:41 ---Even the weird hair is most likely something they would have given her in Origins had they the tech. Same as the Qunari and horns.
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That's an odd rationalization. Based on the Desire Demon design, head protrusions were definitely within their tech capabilities for DA:O. I think Gaider hand-waved the Qunari retcon by saying that "elite qunari" have horns and others don't, which doesn't make a lot of sense, but the character design seems to be based around "cool shit" more than anything (which is why it's compared it to anime, where costumes, hairstyles and tits are routinely exaggerated beyond all practicality or sense). The Flemeth hair thing is just ridiculous and dumb, but the Qunari thing is baffling and dumb, and if nothing else shows Bioware's immense dissatisfaction with the world they created in DA:O, such that they would change so much so quickly.
--- Quote from: Josefbugman on 26 Feb 2011, 01:41 ---That and shape shifting in Flemeth's case? Well she might actually have appeared differently to different people, Morrigan mentions that she can appear beautiful to templars who are hunting her, and as a crone in other cases, so why not now?
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Fair point. I suppose with the blight and all she probably doesn't need to worry about a strong Chantry response to her presence anyway. But I think on some level it makes the most sense for her to remain a commonly dismissed subject of folklore, which makes her DA2 behavior a little inconsistent. We'll have to see how it pans out, because at present it seems to me like she's being presented in an inconsistent way because she's familiar and formidable.
est:
Actually no, I take back the part about the controls. I forgot that I mostly played Mage last time around, so playing the demo as a Warrior felt kinda odd. Playing again with a Mage character feels a bit better. It's still a weird, zoomed-in view though, so it's kinda hard to jump from char to char easily at the moment. Maybe it'll feel more natural with practice.
Josefbugman:
Could be destiny, could be that the party was nearby and she keeps a track of templars near her hideout? I dunno, it probably is a bit inexplicable but I don't mind all that much, imagine how many failed stories of parties a bit like Hawke's in the wilderness.
It was more "head protrusions and helmets", they can do head things, but they couldn't do it with helms and other headgear. Hence why the Ogres had horns but Sten and his Qunari friends did not (as a side note, totally optioning "Sten and his Qunari friends" as a cartoon for Nickelodeon). I think they were dissatisfied with the tech and with the place they set it in. They had created a large world then had a generic "gather your army and fight the dragon" set up, which whilst not BAD was not as interesting,
And from a lore perspective some Qunari are born without horns (they are usually put into units together and are considered different but not worse) and some of the Tal'vashoth (the Qunari rebels) remove theirs.
And you might not like it, seems fine by me though I am sure some of the more rabid areas of the fanbase would disagree. I am getting the Special edition as a Christmas present though, so I might be a tad biased.
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