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Dragon Age 2: Fuckin' Bitches, Stabbin' Dragons
ackblom12:
John, can you stop pretending we're the bioware social forums and stop being as much of a dick for a bit?
KvP:
--- Quote from: ackblom12 on 15 Mar 2011, 15:10 ---John, can you stop pretending we're the bioware social forums and stop being as much of a dick for a bit?
--- End quote ---
If someone's feelings are hurt by my patent dislike of this game, prepped by dreadful previews and then validated by extensive gameplay / design experience, that's not really my problem? And I'm going to respond to challenges toward my criticism from people who haven't even played the game with dismissal, because that's what you do when you're presented with uninformed opinions. If you want to tell me I'm wrong, go ahead. I'd even welcome a reason why I'm wrong beyond "The internet doesn't like this game". But there's no good reason why I should censor myself.
This thread is tilting, as all threads of its kind do, towards a "entertainment is about fun and opinions are arbitrary" handwave, so perhaps someone should just pull the trigger on that. It's either that or "if you didn't like the game why did you buy it", which, if those are your two options, there's really no way to critically appraise anything a geek enjoys.
ackblom12:
John, there has been one or two comments concerning the quality of the game other than you and JC and you accused BK, who just said what he felt like the complaints surrounding it sounded like "change is bad" (which to be fair, in the gaming community is not an uncommon problem), of "White Knighting."
KvP:
I wasn't referring to BK with that post, I was referring to Ozy, because that's what he's been doing in this thread. It's sort of annoying when a litany of flaws in DA2 is met with "there's a conspiracy against Bioware!", because it is, in the real sense of the word, an ad hominem attack - It's a way of invalidating criticism without really addressing it. It's not really borne out of any particular fondness for the game itself or belief in its quality, it's based from a love of Bioware (and a fondness for forum sport). It's eternally irritating to me that geek culture is stuck in this fucking all-or-nothing quagmire, where the only true and sincere way to look at a piece of art or media is as either entirely perfect or entirely execrable. So when I criticise the characterization or the romance system in Mass Effect 2 it must be because I hate Mass Effect 2 and Bioware, despite the fact that I have consistently praised the game's efficient character and inventory design (which, humorously enough, vast swaths of the internet disliked such that we'll probably see attempts to fix what isn't broken in ME3).
I was not looking forward to this game, that much is true. Sometimes what you expect to happen, happens. DA2 confirmed all the fears I had about it. It isn't a vendetta or a conspiracy between me and the internet. I think David Gaider is a hack but I was willing to let DA2 be great because I've been wrong before! Sadly DA2 is not great. It isn't even all that good. Sometimes what you dread turns out to be great. This was not one of those times.
Johnny C:
john do you actually hate DAII? so far i think like the worst thing i can say about it is that it is a stumbling series of mishaps that still turns out to be fairly interesting story-wise, relatively fun to play, and compelling enough to keep going. it's like a pot roast that you left in the oven at 250˚ for two extra hours without even realizing it and so when you pull it out it's kind of overly tender and its juices have made it go from moist to straight-up damp but it's tasty enough and the leftovers you can just chop up into hash so you eat it anyways and just resolve to do better next time
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