Topic: Louie (Read 11416 times)

Inlander · « **on:** 15 Jul 2010, 01:52 »

In only four 20-minute episodes this has already become the current T.V. series I most look forward to every week. Although I had of course seen Louis C.K. in a few things before, I wasn't really familiar with his comedy - but I just love comedy that is simultaneously vulgar, hilarious, and deeply moving. In fact it reminds me quite alot of Daniel Kitson's work.

Anyway, is anybody else watching this show?

ALoveSupreme · « **Reply #1 on:** 15 Jul 2010, 05:43 »

I think the monologue Rick Crom gave in the second episode (regarding the use of the term "faggot" in any context) is one of the better moments in television I can remember.
However I will say it has one of my least favorite "theme songs," if that's what you would call it, ever.

edit: I figured I would add the link for anyone who doesn't watch the show:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-55wC5dEnc

David_Dovey · « **Reply #2 on:** 15 Jul 2010, 06:00 »

That was just plain brilliant.

Inlander · « **Reply #3 on:** 15 Jul 2010, 07:40 »

Quote from: ALoveSupreme on 15 Jul 2010, 05:43

I think the monologue Rick Crom gave in the second episode (regarding the use of the term "faggot" in any context) is one of the better moments in television I can remember.

Absolutely, that's easily one of the greatest television scenes I've ever seen.

And then you have scenes like this from last night's episode, which takes the movie/T.V. show of older guys and younger women and takes it so far that it demonstrates just how ridiculous the cliche is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zj_4vl_H-SI

Jimmy the Squid · « **Reply #4 on:** 15 Jul 2010, 07:59 »

Need to get this show on dvd. Never heard of it before but man, awesome.

Inlander · « **Reply #5 on:** 15 Jul 2010, 08:05 »

It only started screening on American pay-TV about four weeks ago, so you'll have to, uh, "acquire" it some "other way".

EDIT: and then sometimes you get a scene like this which is basically just four minutes of Ricky Gervais being a dick:

http://www.youtube.com/user/louisck#p/u/1/8qOaZ4CQqKI

It's amazing how variable the show is - while maintaining a uniformly high standard.

Scandanavian War Machine · « **Reply #6 on:** 15 Jul 2010, 10:19 »

man, I was really looking forward to watching this show but I moved to a new place the week before it premiered and I haven't got tv at my new house yet. I love Louis CK's comedy, and the previews for the show looked pretty great.

also, he was on The Daily Show a while back and he was great. At one point, Jon Stewart seemed legitmately scared that they'd get shut down or something, because of what Louis CK was saying.

Ozymandias · « **Reply #7 on:** 15 Jul 2010, 12:00 »

Quote from: ALoveSupreme on 15 Jul 2010, 05:43

I think the monologue Rick Crom gave in the second episode (regarding the use of the term "faggot" in any context) is one of the better moments in television I can remember.
However I will say it has one of my least favorite "theme songs," if that's what you would call it, ever.

edit: I figured I would add the link for anyone who doesn't watch the show:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-55wC5dEnc

Okay, but he's wrong. Faggot is an English word and the British and its colonies didn't burn people. Rather, the word used to be a pejorative for old, unpleasant women (from the term "faggot-gatherer") which, considering other terms for gay men, provides a much more reasonable etymology.

smack that isaiah · « **Reply #8 on:** 15 Jul 2010, 13:08 »

I really like this show, altho the episode with Ricky Gervais is unfortunately my least favorite yet (and I typically love Gervais. It's just that that role didn't do it for me).
I hadn't seen Louis CK in anything else, but I think I'll try to track down his HBO series and watch that while waiting between each Tuesday night.

scarred · « **Reply #9 on:** 15 Jul 2010, 21:16 »

Quote from: Ozymandias on 15 Jul 2010, 12:00

Okay, but he's wrong. Faggot is an English word and the British and its colonies didn't burn people. Rather, the word used to be a pejorative for old, unpleasant women (from the term "faggot-gatherer") which, considering other terms for gay men, provides a much more reasonable etymology.

I've been rereading Lord of the Rings, and multiple times, Tolkien (who was British) refers to getting kindling as "gathering a couple faggots."

just sayin.

Ozymandias · « **Reply #10 on:** 15 Jul 2010, 21:36 »

Right.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say. The original English etymology of faggot is a bundle of sticks for kindling. But his etymology for its current slang usage is too direct because that never actually happened in any English-speaking country. The etymology takes a detour through "faggot-gatherers" - old women who would gather bundles of sticks and sell them for money, which then got shortened to just be synonymous with the sticks they gathered, becoming faggots themselves, which then became a pejorative for any old, annoying woman, which then gets applied to homosexual men like many other slang terms for them.

scarred · « **Reply #11 on:** 15 Jul 2010, 21:41 »

well that's definitely not what you said originally, is it?

Alex C · « **Reply #12 on:** 15 Jul 2010, 21:50 »

Yes it is. He just gave it a tiny bit more background information about the origin since you don't really know what you're talking about.

scarred · « **Reply #13 on:** 15 Jul 2010, 22:11 »

He didn't mention that the etymology took a detour, he just said "No, that was never true, it instead just means old woman." I'm not saying he's wrong, but his first post on the matter was hardly accurate, which he then amended in his second post by giving added (and necessary) background information.

No need to be an asshole.

Alex C · « **Reply #14 on:** 15 Jul 2010, 22:42 »

I dunno, I thought "Faggot gatherer," made things a bit too clear for a "well that's definitely not what you said originally, is it?" post, which frankly, comes across as pretty dismissive.

Ozymandias · « **Reply #15 on:** 15 Jul 2010, 22:46 »

I sort of assumed it was common knowledge that the original meaning of "faggot" is a bundle of kindling and took it from there. My bad I guess.

KvP · « **Reply #16 on:** 15 Jul 2010, 23:15 »

The whole point of that scene was to explain the origin of the term "faggot". I'm glad there are people who appreciate that.

Inlander · « **Reply #17 on:** 16 Jul 2010, 00:21 »

Given that the etymology of "faggot" as an epithet postulated in the scene is not actually correct, do you think that lessens the impact of the scene? Personally I think it does ever-so-slightly, but I still absolutely love the scene for so many other reasons that I'm not too fussed, and I think the over-riding message that a word that is tossed around by straight people in an increasingly casual way still has the power to be so painful for homosexual people to hear remains undiminished.

ALoveSupreme · « **Reply #18 on:** 16 Jul 2010, 06:00 »

no, I want every reel of footage and youtube video destroyed.

Also, FYI Isaiah, Lucky Louis is also pretty funny but more of an homage to bad sitcoms (70's sitcoms, so I have heard), so it's a little different humor-wise.

FIXDIX · « **Reply #19 on:** 16 Jul 2010, 18:28 »

Quote from: ALoveSupreme on 16 Jul 2010, 06:00

Also, FYI Isaiah, Lucky Louis is also pretty funny but more of an homage to bad sitcoms (70's sitcoms, so I have heard), so it's a little different humor-wise.

I dunno, I saw it more of a HBO version of 90's sitcoms like Norm, Martin and The Drew Carrey show.

Concerning Louie, I forgot this show was even a thing. I remember reading about it on the wiki page of Louie CK last year. So thank you thread for alerting me to this!

ALoveSupreme · « **Reply #20 on:** 17 Jul 2010, 08:09 »

Quote from: FIXDIX on 16 Jul 2010, 18:28

I dunno, I saw it more of a HBO version of 90's sitcoms like Norm, Martin and The Drew Carrey show.

God I love that you included Norm in that list. What an amazingly terrible show and hilarious dude.

David_Dovey · « **Reply #21 on:** 07 Nov 2010, 12:47 »

"My body is a woman!...

Woman!!...

*spit* WOMAN!!!"

Ptommydski · « **Reply #22 on:** 08 Nov 2010, 10:52 »

Your Father is DEAD.

He's dead!

Ahh, he's dead.

blanktom · « **Reply #23 on:** 10 Nov 2010, 10:42 »

So I managed to get hold of this, and I'm like 5 episodes in. It's great. Some of it is slightly absurd, but other than that I love how real it feels. I feel kinda like he should be a bit happier than he is, and its quite annoying, but I guess thats just him.

Looking forward to see how the rest of this pans out!

Scandanavian War Machine · « **Reply #24 on:** 11 Nov 2010, 12:19 »

season 1 is on Netflix instant now and I just watched the first 8 or 9 episodes last night. Wow. I had seen the pilot, but nothing past that, so naturally my mind got completely fucking blown a little bit more with each episode.

I always liked his standup, thought he was pretty funny, but this show....it's amazing. Besides how funny it is, with it's scary but endearing awkwardness and everything, it's shot really really well. The cameras they use are extremely crisp and the cinematography is just really cool in general.

It might be my new favorite show.

David_Dovey · « **Reply #25 on:** 11 Nov 2010, 15:35 »

Actually yeah that was one thing I noticed almost instantly as well, was how fantastic the cinematography was. Some really nice stuff with focus pulls and other fancy tricks, but not often + intrusive enough for it to feel showy or getting in the way of the writing + acting.

Scandanavian War Machine · « **Reply #26 on:** 11 Nov 2010, 15:54 »

There is a really excellent shot in the episode where he goes on that date to the donut shop and gets bullied. It's a static shot from outside the place, looking in the front window at all the pastries, focusing on the counter inside and the treats. Then Louie walks by with the girl and the camera instantly shifts focus to them (foreground) as they go by and then slowly focuses back onto the donuts when they've passed through the shot.

I was extremely stoned at the time and I seriously wanted to stand up and applaud right there in my living room. It was beautiful.

Seems like there's at least one shot like that per episode; something that's just so elegant and simple that it kind of blows your mind.

Another good one was a shot of a melted ice cream container spilling onto the floor after he abandoned his plans for getting motivated and goes on a two-day junk food binge instead. It cuts right to it from either his stand up or commercial and it's pretty powerful.

jhocking · « **Reply #27 on:** 22 Dec 2010, 13:26 »

I just watched the episode where his mom visits and tells him she's a lesbian, I think it is my favorite
http://www.hulu.com/watch/169603/louie-double-date--mom#s-p2-so-i0

ALoveSupreme · « **Reply #28 on:** 22 Dec 2010, 14:04 »

I love how crazy his mom is.

Except, a few later there is a flashback episode to when he was a kid and his mom at that time was portrayed as being completely awesome and supportive... it was a little confusing but maybe intentional?

jhocking · « **Reply #29 on:** 22 Dec 2010, 14:38 »

Incidentally, was his mom in the flashback the same actress as his date in the bully episode? I notice that this show recycles actors a lot. Not that I particularly mind, but I've noticed that his date from the pilot is the coffee-shop clerk in a later episode, and the single mom he befriends was his wife in his old show.

Also, I haven't been watching the episodes in order. I love that it makes no difference what order you watch them in.

ALoveSupreme · « **Reply #30 on:** 23 Dec 2010, 06:09 »

Actually, I did not notice anything like what you mentioned! I'll have to go back and see, I guess.

Algernon · « **Reply #31 on:** 23 Dec 2010, 10:55 »

Louie is a fantastic show. And somehow managed to get a second season, probably because it's dirt cheap.

Also, re: the actor recycling thing. On the AVClub review for God, CK or someone purporting to be CK posted this in the comments:

Quote

The "Mom" episode was a character idea. a parent that is completely narcisistic. My mother is the opposite. But this show is not entirely autobiographical. Often it's not that at all. I just wanted to try this mom character and it worked well with the brother character I had developed. I also don't have a brother. I threw a couple of scenes at Robert Kelly and there was something so endearingly pathetic about him that I brought him back. When I started screwing around with this idea of having this awful mother, Robert's character fit into it perfectly.
I had written the God script before we started shooting and I shelved it. I just didn't think I could pull it off in the best possible way and did not want to do a shitty version of it. So I wrote it and then put it away. Several weeks later I wrote and shot Mom. A few weeks after that, I revisited the GOD script. I had more confidence in how we were producing the show and photographing it and I wanted to take it on. So I dusted off the script. Gayle Keller, the casting director, told me her idea of Tom Noonan, who I love and that just made me have to do it. Amy Silver the designer, made a great Jesus. So we put it into the mill.
Before it was shelved, Gayle had put a few people on tape, auditioning for "God". Amy Landecker had read for the mom. I hadn't seen it. She subsequently got the part for Bully, which we shot pretty early in the season. (sorry I know the timeline is a mess here) Anyway I watched her audition for God and she just nailed it (sorry) . No one else came close. So I decided I don't care that she was in this other thing. This show doesn't really function as a series. I don't think of it that way. I use what I need to tell each story. Also this is a flashback. It's in the past so it's a rememberance. There is something about a flashback, it feels like it exists on a hazier plane of reality than a present day story. It felt right to me to do that. Also at the end of her audition she said "You wanna go get some donuts?" which had this weird chilly time-travelly feeling to it because our Bully scene was so donut-centric.
As far as the mom character... Yeah, the mom in GOD is really my mom. We're even in a Pinto just like hers. She was a working mom and always wore a trench coat. The Mom in MOM was a total crazy character having to do with nothing in my life. The kid playing me in God was vastly different in look and character than the kid who plays me in Divorce and Bully. Every episode is tacking a different thing. Some people will be confused. That's okay. I think it's worth it. If it irks you to watch it because of that, I understand. But I still want to make the show this way. And they're letting me.
By the way my daughter, Jane, is played by two different girls through the season. I don't think it matters. Thanks for watching.

Tom · « **Reply #32 on:** 17 Mar 2011, 18:41 »

I feel bad for laughing so hard at the Heckler scene but Louis purposefully saying the worst things possible was hilarious.

Inlander · « **Reply #33 on:** 20 Apr 2011, 15:58 »

Season 2 starting June 23!!

http://www.avclub.com/articles/fx-sets-premiere-dates-for-wilfred-new-seasons-of,54866/

TheFuriousWombat · « **Reply #34 on:** 21 Apr 2011, 07:23 »

I'll stick to his stand-up, the show didn't really work for me.

Scandanavian War Machine · « **Reply #35 on:** 21 Apr 2011, 10:10 »

i can't wait. i love almost every episode of season 1, and some of them i'd even go as far as calling Epic Fucking Masterpieces.

i hope i live somewhere where i can get tv when it comes back

ALoveSupreme · « **Reply #36 on:** 22 Apr 2011, 06:51 »

Thanks for the June 23rd info!

Dazed · « **Reply #37 on:** 23 Jun 2011, 20:02 »

And we're back! With the world's longest and most suspenseful fart joke.

Inlander · « **Reply #38 on:** 24 Jun 2011, 01:17 »

Arg I've downloaded the new episode and I really really want to watch it right now but I have to go out to a dinner party instead.

Stupid friends! Stupid social life!!

Tom · « **Reply #39 on:** 24 Jun 2011, 15:53 »

“And then I ate his asshole. If you don’t eat your friend’s asshole with your tongue you’re not really a friend. You’re a fair-weather friend”

How can you not love this arsehole?

ALoveSupreme · « **Reply #40 on:** 25 Jun 2011, 14:52 »

EPIC TOILET HUMOR

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