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Ok! Dump her ass!
Carl-E:
Tomorrow. Someone says, "Now, just wait one god-damned minute!" and calls her on how unreasonable she's being. They may let her cool down some first, but I'm not sure that's in Faye's character.
Of course, the last time that happened there was a fight. Dora may blow up more, she may not. We'll see. There will be punch lines, tears, attempts at reconciliation, comfort, recriminations (self- and otherwise), probably a few more misunderstandings,
and then life (and the comic) will go on.
--- Quote from: ChibiSoma on 31 Aug 2010, 16:43 ---
--- Quote from: Switchblade on 31 Aug 2010, 14:59 ---got to be honest here... the people clamouring for a breakup are just demonstrating that they don't know what it takes to make a real relationship work.
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That or we've been in relationships with crazy bitches.
Also, stop being a twat.
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Dora's not a crazy bitch. Bitch-ette, at best. Issues, yes, but crazy? No.
Sorry if you've really been involved with a truly crazy person before, but that's unfortunate, and not their fault.
helloandgoodbye:
--- Quote from: jordinyc on 31 Aug 2010, 15:34 ---Pardon me if any or all of this sounds like it's right out of a Glenn Beck show, I hope I'm not invalidating my IQ score by stating this:
Part of the reason Dora's reaction pisses me off (a lot) is because of a perception that many MANY people have, both men and women. The perception is that the woman in a relationship is entitled to be as unreasonable as possible because (a) "that's just how women are" and (b) she "holds all the cards" and it's up to the guy to beg, plead, obey, kiss up, etc. You don't see TV ads with women staring at hot guys and then their husband or boyfriend looking at them with contempt as their woman tries to explain. There are A LOT of men who in Marten's situation would probably spend whole days begging and pleading for the wife/gf to forgive him, as well as women who feel like it's their duty to act like Dora is. Switch genders and you have a Lifetime movie.
I guess it shouldn't bug me but it does. So if you're wondering why I'm being so trollbait butthurt over a comic, trust me it's not that, it's the society of humanity that it's reflecting.
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Um, Jeph did show the gender roles reversed. Remember Cosette and Steve? Marten just told Cosette that her shirt looked nice, and Steve totally overreacted. Yeah, they aren't major characters in the webcomic, but it does show that unreasonableness and jealousy go both ways.
Steve realized he was being unreasonable and apologized. Dora will most likely do the same. I think people are being unreasonable by saying that Marten and Dora need to break up now. She just need to let off a little steam and realize that she was being stupid.
WoweeZowee:
I disagree. Recall that Dora obviously knows that Marten once really wanted to be with Faye. What is she supposed to think immediately upon seeing this? If ANYONE walked in on their love interest snuggling someone they once had feelings for IN the middle of the night WHILE in their undergarments, the first reaction would not be complete trust and an assumption of platonic happenings. Sorry, but if you claim otherwise you're just being silly. It doesn't mean Dora's right. It's just probably how any person would react. I don't think her reaction even shows undue jealousy. She should have allowed for more explanation, but no one is perfect. Also, we've only seen Dora's reaction after like 1 minute.
jordinyc:
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--- Quote from: jordinyc on 31 Aug 2010, 15:34 ---Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah ....
blah blah blah blah blah perception blah blah blah unreasonable blah blah blah blah cards blah blah blah blah begging blah blah blah genders blah blah blah blah Lifetime blah.
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Um, Jeph did show the gender roles reversed. Remember Cosette and Steve? Marten just told Cosette that her shirt looked nice, and Steve totally overreacted. Yeah, they aren't major characters in the webcomic, but it does show that unreasonableness and jealousy go both ways.
Steve realized he was being unreasonable and apologized. Dora will most likely do the same. I think people are being unreasonable by saying that Marten and Dora need to break up now. She just need to let off a little steam and realize that she was being stupid.
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.... I fucking LOVE THIS COMIC!!! >_<
(Don't get me wrong, I'm complaining about people in general and why Dora pissed me off, not about the series or the plot.)
tomart:
--- Quote from: jordinyc on 31 Aug 2010, 15:34 ---... right out of a Glenn Beck show ...
Part of the reason Dora's reaction pisses me off (a lot) is because of a perception that many MANY people have, both men and women. The perception is that the woman in a relationship is entitled to be as unreasonable as possible because (a) "that's just how women are" and (b) she "holds all the cards" and it's up to the guy to beg, plead, obey, kiss up, etc.
... A LOT of men who in Marten's situation would probably spend whole days begging and pleading for the wife/gf to forgive him, as well as women who feel like it's their duty to act like Dora is.
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? I thought Glenn Beck was just a right-wing Republican rabble-rouser. Tell me, please, which side of the above delusion is he on? (Rubs hands in gleeful anticipation of potential delicious red-meat debatatribes [Not really; they get ugly, not to mention off-topic.] )
Yeah, that particular TOTALLY UNFAIR female manipulation pathology seriously bugs me too. But I'm not raging at Dora yet because:
1. her behavior & words are from a guy
2. like he says, her previously-defined issues pretty much pre-wrote her parts in the last two strips
3. we've only seen a minute or so after the awkward discovery
But it's a bad sign that she's stomping on her two closest friends without even fucking LISTENING TO THEM... and she's crossing the line, as someone points out, mixing business with personal issues, ...UNLESS it's for the reasonable reason that she'll be able to calm down better without having to face Faye at work before working any of this out. (She can always pay Faye for the day later, in effect giving her an extra paid vac day.) I'm hoping Dorian reasonableness ensues fairly soon, with that generous gesture topping the relieved smiles all around.
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