Comic Discussion > QUESTIONABLE CONTENT
WCDT - 6-10 September 2010 (1746-1750)
Carl-E:
--- Quote from: Econoclast on 08 Sep 2010, 23:50 ---All of her problems seem pithy and shallow in comparison to legitimate issues like Faye's PTSD, or Hannelore's OCD, or Marigold's social anxiety.
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Yes. They certainly seem less... intense. They are also no less crippling. And, rather than preventing a relationship, they snuck up and sabatoged an otherwise good relationship.
This is what makes it a slice-of-life comic. It's actually normal to have baggage.
--- Quote ---Her androgynous looks don't hold a candle to the other female characters
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To each his own.
Dr. ROFLPWN:
--- Quote from: Sorflakne on 09 Sep 2010, 00:30 ---Hm, going by the last panel, Dora's apparently back to her old self.
And if Econoclast's post is any indication, seems he only wants bland, predictable characters. Also seems he wanted Marten and Faye to get together.
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Actually, reading his post it seems his issue with Dora is that she's too normal and acts well-adjusted most of the time. Apparently a string of psuedo-abusive relationships is not an actual problem, it's just superficial. Uh-huh. Yep.
As for his apparent latent Faye/Marten shipping, that just makes me laugh and tell him to cry some more, because that possibility is having nails driven into its coffin every day, and I thank God for it. QC is one of the really good dramatic comics because, unlike many dramas, it doesn't rely on unresolved sexual tension. When tension comes up in this universe, people have to do what they do in real life: work it out and move past it.
And hey, guess what? If you let it sit around the way Marty and Faye did before the Talk? You will not get to be with that person! And they will move the fuck on! Like Faye is finally doing and Marty did a while ago!
nicoley:
I agree with Econoclast to some degree... not a big Dora fan like most people are. But I mean, not everyone has to have big intense problems, like Faye with her dad killing himself in front of her or Hanners bad OCD. While Dora's issues are considerably less severe than Faye's, they are still legitimate I suppose. I don't like the way Marten handled Dora when he got home. Someone said it's a natural reaction for him to get home, see her in an almost fetal position looking sad, and want to comfort her. But if I did something like what Dora did, it doesn't matter how puppy eyed I made myself look. My boyfriend would be giving me the silent treatment for a looong time. Marten hasn't done anything to make Dora distrustful like her old boyfriends did. I don't think it's fair to bring old baggage into new relationships, especially since before they even started dating, Dora knew Marten pretty well and knew that he wasn't the cheating type.
Also, I don't really think Econoclast is trying to ship Faye and Marten... it's not like Marten has to either be with Faye or Dora ONLY. Personally I don't think either of them are right for him. I was kind of hoping this would break those 2 up too, but it's not my choice!
Tergon:
*shrugs*
We all have our favourite characters, so it follows we all have our own least favourite. Some people are just slightly more... vehement... in their dislike. As far as making Dora an interesting character, I actually think that making her more "normal" than the others is what makes her more interesting. Certainly she's got her share of issues, and her family is anything but ordinary, but she handles things like a normal person would. But like everyone, she has her little problems, and we're finding out more what they are. If in the past you found Dora to be boring, maybe as we explore her history you'll find her more interesting. As for me, I genuinely like her as a character, so I have no trouble with exploring her a bit more.
As far as comparing Dora's issues with those of Faye, Hannelore or Marigold goes, my initial response is to comment that QC is not a competition for Which Is the Craziest Chick Of All? though at times it may seem like it. Yeah, okay, they might have better reasons to act a little crazy sometimes, but that definitely doesn't mean that Dora has no good reason. If anything, the fact that she's seemed so normal up to now, when we find out she's been sitting atop a mountain of crazy, is something alarming all on its own.
I'm reminded of an old novel I once read: The Fog, by James Herbert (none of the shitty movies you're thinking of were based on it). Basically a chemical weapon gets loose, blows into London as a cloud of fog, and if you inhale it, it destroys parts of your brain and makes you go completely insane. In one scene of the story, the (immune) protagonist is exploring London, seeing people doing all kinds of crazy shit, killing themselves and each other, gibbering madly, crashing cars and lighting fires... and the most chilling part is seeing people who are dressed in suits and ties, lining up at bus stops, chatting to one another, going to work, and ignoring all the chaos around them. Which is what makes them insane, because despite the horrific scenes around them, they simply act normal as if it's not going on.
My point is, look at Dora's life. Her parents are obscenely-rich European pot-smokers. Her brother is a womanizing pseudo-celebrity who writes Country music that he despises. One of her friends suffers from severe depression and what looks like post-traumatic stress disorder from a paternal suicide, another has severe OCD and is from space, and the world is populated by tiny, highly destructive robots that people choose to buy for some reason. She's had a string of potentially-abusive relationships with arseholes before hooking up with a guy who was in love with her friend who she not only employs but lives with.
In the midst of this, she has a healthy relationship and is a successful small business owner.
...exactly what part of this is boring?
Kugai:
A nice, honest, real relationship in QC - who woulda thought!
At least Dora recognises she has issues and needs to sort them. I love the angle on this too.
Those pillows definitely look too small. More like cushions than pillows.
Aaaannnnnnd
Pintsize to bring it back to basics.
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