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WCDT - 6-10 September 2010 (1746-1750)
jwhouk:
80% of this thread = TL; DR.
Oh, and the "get away from the computer" commenter? :P
(Gets up, adjusts his wedding ring, goes into other room, smiles at photos of his lovely wife, then crawls into bed for the day - ON NORMAL SIZED PILLOWS, JEPH! :roll: )
Mr_Rose:
All of you guys manipulating your UBMEOD: Are you sure you all want to keep ...ah, stimulating them like that?
You might end up needing the UMMEOV....
Odin:
--- Quote from: Tergon on 09 Sep 2010, 05:46 ---...okay, I definitely don't want this to turn into a flamewar, so I'll just bite back the comments that are on the tip of my tongue about the difference between intelligent responses and "Fuck you I'm right".
Instead I'll just say that we're all entitled to our opinions, regardless of how many folks agree with us. I'm not going to repeat myself other than to emphasise my main point - if you love someone you have to try. And if your instant response to relationship stress is to claim that life's too short and who gives a shit, then I'm genuinely sorry for you. That's damaged. And I doubt someone with that outlook on life is going to find happiness any time soon.
But, hey, it's the internet. People can express themselves and damned if I'm going to start Internet Drama over a difference of opinion regarding the relationship between two fictional people.
*collects his UBMEOD and stands beside akronnick, facing the ocean*
We stand as one!
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If you didn't catch that I was talking about people spending their entire married life fighting to "make a relationship work" (as in, multiple decades "for the children" and making themselves and the kids miserable), you are beyond stupid. The rest falls into place in that context and you need to actually read what I post.
--- Quote from: Carl-E on 09 Sep 2010, 06:02 ---At some point, I'm going to have to do a TL;DR on this thread, but until then, Odin needs to hear a few things...
OK, maybe it's me who needs to say a few things.
--- Quote from: Odin on 09 Sep 2010, 05:19 ---...Mentally healthy adults do not take pleasure in abusing their friends like the cast of QC does on a regular basis (with very few interludes of rationality and apologizing later when even by QC standards someone crosses the line).
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My wife of mumble mumble years and I regularly verbally snark at each other. It's a challenge of wits, it's fun, and we don't go for the jugular (a la Who's Afraid of Virginia Wolfe). To the outside world, it seems a little bizarre, but I'm pretty sure we're mentally healthy. In fact, I'm pretty sure it's helped us stay that way.
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Meanwhile, QC characters regularly go for the jugular. Jeph has characters like Faye act like they play off father suicide jokes so far, but I'd wager if he's going to handle it even remotely realistically Faye talks about that shit with her therapist at some point.
--- Quote ---Well, stable, at least.
We play scrabble, too, but I think that's more abusive...
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Why? Because you lose?
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--- Quote ---Life is too short to spend the majority of it fighting to save a failing relationship given the absolute truth that the person you are with is not a unique snowflake and you can always find someone better (if you yourself are worth better).
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Wow. just... wow. You can always find someone better? You've just written yourself into a long trail of failed relationships, right there. Right up until you find someone who you feel you're not worthy of. But with an ego that large, it may never happen.
Try finding someone you love for who they are, not for what they're worth to you. Then hope they love you for who you are. If they don't, then maybe it's not worth it.
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There is a difference between "a long trail of failed relationships" and "thinking it is absolutely retarded for Marten to settle for a long term relationship with the very first woman that actually wants to have sex with him". We're discussing a derail over my saying how hilariously unrealistic (how toxic they'd be if they were real) the characters are compared to you and others thinking they are perfectly realistic, remember?
What you said only really applies if the dating pool around me is full of abysmally clingy, neurotic people (thankfully, it isn't). Where do you live, rural Alabama or something?
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--- Quote ---Meanwhile, if you're inclination is to leave the relationship, that should be a pretty good indication that you don't love them, right? Why stay with someone you don't love?
If you have to convince yourself that you love someone, you don't love them, you should break up and move on.
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So far, that's the most reasonable thing you've said. Bear in mind, though, that you can believe a lot of false things, and may need to be convinced of the truth!
Here I stand, broom in hand, against the rushing tide...
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And it makes sense if you read it in the correct context of what I actually wrote instead of fucking up in your reading comprehension like everyone disagreeing with me so far.
Carl-E:
--- Quote from: Odin on 09 Sep 2010, 08:01 ---If you didn't catch that I was talking about people spending their entire married life fighting to "make a relationship work" (as in, multiple decades "for the children" and making themselves and the kids miserable), you are beyond stupid. The rest falls into place in that context and you need to actually read what I post.
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Apparantly, no one caught that point. Maybe because it wasn't articulated. You really should read what you post also. The context may have been clear to you when you wrote it, but obviously not when a lot of people read it. You need to say what you mean!
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--- Quote ---Well, stable, at least.
We play scrabble, too, but I think that's more abusive...
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Why? Because you lose?
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No, because we spend he whole time trying to beat each other ... XD
--- Quote ---And it makes sense if you read it in the correct context of what I actually wrote instead of fucking up in your reading comprehension like everyone disagreeing with me so far.
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Again, we all read what you wrote. See my first point, and if you want to be heard, try backing up your statements before pontificating. (wait, is that a contradiction?)
Oh, and try some polite discourse. It tastes better.
Moxie:
Ah, today's comic is better! Much more what I was hoping for - some actual thought/conversation about Dora's actions. Maybe a tiny bit will stick this time, and Dora can start on the path of getting better!
Although, really Dora, don't encourage Pintsize.
--- Quote from: raoullefere on 09 Sep 2010, 01:55 ---If I am right, (and Jeph only knows that) then it's going to be very difficult for Dora to 'catch' herself doing that. That's why I think she needs counseling, so an uninvolved party can help Dora learn to perceive clues in her thought process that indicate she's 'doing it again.' Your brain needs training to do what you want it to, just like a balky horse. You have to be able to know when he's going to cut to the right to leave the arena before he does it. Correct him enough, and, in theory, he stops doing that. (In practice, the sneaky bastard waits until you're not paying attention for a while, then does it again. And so does your brain. But I'm told eventually they give up.)
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Definitely with you on this one! But I think you're right - there is a bit of a start tonight. Like I said: hopefully that will stick!
--- Quote from: raoullefere on 09 Sep 2010, 01:55 ---Oh, and points to Marten for more full disclosure. So long as he holds to that, he keeps the moral authority (or whatever you want to call it) to hold Dora to it, too (which she did). I guess that's some of the handling Carl-E's concerned about, but doesn't she need it at this point?
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Funny, I didn't have an issue with the word "handling", as I agree that Dora does need it. What I didn't like today was Marten's line of "You're not a mess" (because she is, albeit not as much of one as some others), and his line "We can fix this". I'm trying to decide what it is about that particular line that I don't like. I think it's partly the "we", because while Marten can help, I do think Dora needs outside help more...Marten's done all he can I believe.
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