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WCDT - 6-10 September 2010 (1746-1750)
Near Lurker:
Now I'm wondering what Dora's evil exes would look like.
The Yoga Instructor!
David Bowie!
The Urolagniac!
The Diva's DJ!
The Bad Threeway!
And finally... Raven!
...I'm going to assume the "crazy racist" was just preemptive. Or possibly David Bowie.
Tergon:
Odin, you might try actually explaining things that you're saying some time. Like Carl-E pointed out, yeah, you might have known what you wanted to say but... you didn't actually say it at any point. Makes it a wee bit hard on the rest of us.
Anyway. Now, rest assured, we're all very impressed with how clever you are - we all love forceful, agressive people here, God knows - and we're quite sure that you could probably beat us up in fights in real life in between you totally making out with, like, twelve hot chicks at once. But if you're quite done being the Internet Tough Guy, you might want to wind down the insults just slightly because the adults are talking here, sweetie. Staggering though it may be for you to understand, sometimes when people disagree with you it's not because they fail reading comprehension. It's because they actually thought about what you said and didn't agree.
Also, what's the bet you take something from that out of context and declare me to be a supreme arsehole, because we've never seen a troll use that lame self-defence tactic before...
The thing that I'm not getting about your hate on the Marten / Dora relationship is that you seem to think they're at each other's throats all the time. From all signs they're considered pretty much a nauseatingly cute couple by all of their friends. They get along, they have similar tastes (aside from Toto), and obviously they're physically compatible. Yes, they fight sometimes, but it was outright said only a few comics ago that the only thing they've had big fights about were Dora's trust issues. Basically they get along wonderfully and all their friends acknowledge this - Steve even describes them once as a "Perfect Couple" - aside from a single recurring issue. This issue has just now been revealed to have a perfectly understandable reason for existing, and Marten and Dora are being up-front about the fact that they plan to resolve the issue.
That's... just not what I'd call break-up material.
Obviously you shouldn't have a relationship with someone you can't stop fighting with. That's such a blindingly apparent fact that I think that's why none of us realised that's what you were getting at - it didn't need saying, because we all agree with it. It's like observing that standing in a fire is a bad idea because of all the heat. And yes, obviously, if you don't get along with the person you're dating, breaking up with them is what you should do. It's what any sane, rational person would do.
What everyone else in the conversation before you arrived was talking about, and what QC is currently working on, is a relationship in which you get along fine 99% of the time but occasionally fight. Otherwise known as a normal relationship. Which is hard, and it's why you have to try to make it work. Because it's actually worth it instead of being a coward and backing out rather than take a chance.
In short, I agree with one point you've made, despite thinking that it didn't really need to be made because it's both incredibly obvious and not really relevant to what we were talking about.
As to how everyone else is apparently wrong, I might cheerfully point out that if every single person who talks to you thinks you're wrong, maybe it's just barely possible that theyr'e not all idiots and you need to consider what exactly you're saying.
And as to the pointless, random insults: Fuck you and have a nice day.
*hefts the Useless Broom Made Entirely Out Of Dicks above his head*
Heranje:
--- Quote from: Odin on 09 Sep 2010, 08:01 ---"thinking it is absolutely retarded for Marten to settle for a long term relationship with the very first woman that actually wants to have sex with him".
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The mighty wielders of the UBMEOD have already vocalised my thoughts better than I could, but I'd also like to point out that this is not Marten's first relationship - he has had girlfriends before. So he's not really leaping at the first person who wanted to be with him.
Odin:
--- Quote from: Carl-E on 09 Sep 2010, 08:30 ---
--- Quote from: Odin on 09 Sep 2010, 08:01 ---If you didn't catch that I was talking about people spending their entire married life fighting to "make a relationship work" (as in, multiple decades "for the children" and making themselves and the kids miserable), you are beyond stupid. The rest falls into place in that context and you need to actually read what I post.
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Apparantly, no one caught that point. Maybe because it wasn't articulated. You really should read what you post also. The context may have been clear to you when you wrote it, but obviously not when a lot of people read it. You need to say what you mean!
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Sorry, I figured since people were referencing divorce rates that we were on the same page.
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--- Quote ---Well, stable, at least.
We play scrabble, too, but I think that's more abusive...
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Why? Because you lose?
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No, because we spend he whole time trying to beat each other ... XD
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That was terrible.
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--- Quote ---And it makes sense if you read it in the correct context of what I actually wrote instead of fucking up in your reading comprehension like everyone disagreeing with me so far.
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Again, we all read what you wrote. See my first point, and if you want to be heard, try backing up your statements before pontificating. (wait, is that a contradiction?)
Oh, and try some polite discourse. It tastes better.
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90% of my other internet posting is on the SomethingAwful forums, so the crossover of abrasiveness isn't intentional, it's just the general tone I'm used to having to constantly take with people.
--- Quote from: Tergon on 09 Sep 2010, 09:41 ---Odin, you might try actually explaining things that you're saying some time. Like Carl-E pointed out, yeah, you might have known what you wanted to say but... you didn't actually say it at any point. Makes it a wee bit hard on the rest of us.
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I addressed this above.
--- Quote ---Anyway. Now, rest assured, we're all very impressed with how clever you are - we all love forceful, agressive people here, God knows - and we're quite sure that you could probably beat us up in fights in real life in between you totally making out with, like, twelve hot chicks at once. But if you're quite done being the Internet Tough Guy, you might want to wind down the insults just slightly because the adults are talking here, sweetie. Staggering though it may be for you to understand, sometimes when people disagree with you it's not because they fail reading comprehension. It's because they actually thought about what you said and didn't agree.
Also, what's the bet you take something from that out of context and declare me to be a supreme arsehole, because we've never seen a troll use that lame self-defence tactic before...
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Actually, most of the time when people disagree with me it's because they don't bother to take the time to understand my point before arguing against it (because they don't like "rude" language on the internet and apparently can't parse intelligent discourse if it isn't couched in flowery Shakespearan poetry). Also: because they're morons.
--- Quote ---The thing that I'm not getting about your hate on the Marten / Dora relationship is that you seem to think they're at each other's throats all the time. From all signs they're considered pretty much a nauseatingly cute couple by all of their friends. They get along, they have similar tastes (aside from Toto), and obviously they're physically compatible. Yes, they fight sometimes, but it was outright said only a few comics ago that the only thing they've had big fights about were Dora's trust issues. Basically they get along wonderfully and all their friends acknowledge this - Steve even describes them once as a "Perfect Couple" - aside from a single recurring issue. This issue has just now been revealed to have a perfectly understandable reason for existing, and Marten and Dora are being up-front about the fact that they plan to resolve the issue.
That's... just not what I'd call break-up material.
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All of their friends are pretty fucked up in their own right. Wasn't Steve the one that was all "OMG BITCH YOU FLIRTED WITH SOMEONE ELSE, ARE YOU CHEATING ON ME?!"?
Hardly a group to use as a point of reference for whether or not a couple is "perfect", though I can see how you'd think that if your entire point hinges on relativism compared to every other relationship Jeph has had in the comic so far.
--- Quote ---Obviously you shouldn't have a relationship with someone you can't stop fighting with. That's such a blindingly apparent fact that I think that's why none of us realised that's what you were getting at - it didn't need saying, because we all agree with it. It's like observing that standing in a fire is a bad idea because of all the heat. And yes, obviously, if you don't get along with the person you're dating, breaking up with them is what you should do. It's what any sane, rational person would do.
What everyone else in the conversation before you arrived was talking about, and what QC is currently working on, is a relationship in which you get along fine 99% of the time but occasionally fight. Otherwise known as a normal relationship. Which is hard, and it's why you have to try to make it work. Because it's actually worth it instead of being a coward and backing out rather than take a chance.
In short, I agree with one point you've made, despite thinking that it didn't really need to be made because it's both incredibly obvious and not really relevant to what we were talking about.
As to how everyone else is apparently wrong, I might cheerfully point out that if every single person who talks to you thinks you're wrong, maybe it's just barely possible that theyr'e not all idiots and you need to consider what exactly you're saying.
And as to the pointless, random insults: Fuck you and have a nice day.
*hefts the Useless Broom Made Entirely Out Of Dicks above his head*
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Wouldn't you have to pull that out of your mouth first?
--- Quote from: Heranje on 09 Sep 2010, 10:14 ---
--- Quote from: Odin on 09 Sep 2010, 08:01 ---"thinking it is absolutely retarded for Marten to settle for a long term relationship with the very first woman that actually wants to have sex with him".
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The mighty wielders of the UBMEOD have already vocalised my thoughts better than I could, but I'd also like to point out that this is not Marten's first relationship - he has had girlfriends before. So he's not really leaping at the first person who wanted to be with him.
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Marten claims he had girlfriends before, there is no actual proof of this (and given how he pined over Faye forever, I find it easier to believe he actually was the stereotypical "Nice Guy" and just now--as in, the most recent comic--starting to finally grow up).
Border Reiver:
Based on the above - "Gentlemen, Ladies - there would appear to be a troll in Asgard at present."
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