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WCDT - 6-10 September 2010 (1746-1750)
lunakitten:
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Nothing against a nice boink, but when you need a hug and a friend to talk to and cheering up? It's not remotely enough. It's sad that it was all he was able to offer her, and sadder that she thought it was all she deserved to have.
tomart:
--- Quote from: Schmorgluck on 06 Sep 2010, 11:46 ---And then there are guys who have no more problem carrying a conversation with girls than with other guys, it's just that they don't have a mode for "conversation with someone I'm attracted to and I'd like to explore the possibilities with".
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That's it! I can function in all sorts of social situations, UNTIL I'm face to face with a woman I LIKE... part of my brain freezes up.
And I think that's why I'm defending Sven here - FAYE was the one who limited their relationship, trying to control it, and he went along, as I did with one woman, where the roles were reversed. She kept it FwB, I realized I wanted more. It was an emotional roller-coaster.
Schmorgluck:
--- Quote from: tomart on 06 Sep 2010, 16:19 ---
--- Quote from: Schmorgluck on 06 Sep 2010, 11:46 ---And then there are guys who have no more problem carrying a conversation with girls than with other guys, it's just that they don't have a mode for "conversation with someone I'm attracted to and I'd like to explore the possibilities with".
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That's it! I can function in all sorts of social situations, UNTIL I'm face to face with a woman I find desirable... part of my brain freezes up.
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Oh, I see. Well, in a way, that's what happens to me too, but most of the time it's the part of my brain that finds her desirable that freezes up, so I fall back to continuing the conversation in a perfectly ordinary way. Hell, I'm not even sure my attitude noticeably changes. It's kinda like I forbid myself to act on my attraction for fear of being obnoxious and annoy her, and waste an otherwise pleasant conversation.
JackFaerie:
--- Quote from: Taigan on 06 Sep 2010, 04:44 ---Sven, the only thing you did really wrong with Faye was sleeping with that GIna Riversmith chick, and YOU KNEW IT WAS WRONG AT THE TIME!
How would "Cliff Notes" have helped that?
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Actually, I think what he did wrong was putting up with Faye's intense bullshit in the first place. I think as soon as she told him she wasn't going to consider a relationship with him, but expected exclusivity, he shoulda cut it off right there, because to me it is an INCREDIBLY out-of-line demand.
Tergon:
I think it's pretty much what we'd expect of Sven at this point, though. Whatever else can be said about his character, he's always been shown to care about his little sister - behind the jokes about how she'd kick his arse if she saw a need, it's pretty obvious that he does genuinely care about what she thinks. Which follows, naturally, that he genuinely cares about her. So if anything's going to cut through his suave-womanizer-bullshit, it's the thought of Dora hurting. There's just that instinctive Big Brother reflex that I don't think even Sven is immune to. His feelings toward Faye, whatever they may be, won't trump that. Which is why I think he's being completely honest to Marten, who he respects as a decent guy for his sister. Hell, he basically said as much in panel 2.
But for the same reason I can't see him giving Marten a big history on arseholes from Dora's life. I think he'll basically give Marten the advice that's needed: that Dora, herself, needs to be able to tell Marten about what she's been through, and why that means she has so much trouble trusting him. Part of it is her self-image, part of it is instinctive reaction to a guy she has feelings for, but all of it is coming from her, and that can't be solved by a third party filling in the blanks. She has to be the one to talk Marten through this, if only so that they can come to the conclusion that he's just not That Guy.
As for Sven? I wholeheartedly endorse him giving Marten a nudge in the right direction. It's such a Big-Brotherly thing to do in order to help Dora. But at the same time I don't see him wanting to get any more involved than that, or telling Marten too much. I definitely don't see him wanting Dora to know that he's helping. Like he said himself, "Gotta keep up the act."
I think this is one of Sven's most important appearances since he and Faye had their falling out. It makes him a real person again, it's so believable for what siblings who care about each other would do, and yet it's perfectly in character for what we've seen - he DOES care about Dora, he just doesn't want to admit it to anyone. I'm really enjoying where it's gone for him.
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