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WCDT - 6-10 September 2010 (1746-1750)

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Near Lurker:

--- Quote from: Akima on 06 Sep 2010, 16:05 ---From a female perspective, I'd say men who "can't talk to girls" simply can't communicate effectively with us, rather than just getting tongue-tied. The glib douche, with his patter of "zingers" and pick-up lines, is no more capable than the stammering dork. The (nowadays rare, but not yet extinct) fast-talking technical salesman who is too busy laying on the charm to listen to (never mind answer) my questions, is another example of a man who can't talk to women (or at least to me).

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Did it occur to you at all that the face a man presents to you while he's trying to pick you up might only be a facet of his personality?  Or do you see him as an uncomplicated Martian, existing only to try and fail to fuck you and then go off and get himself killed in some manly contest of strength?

Carl-E:
I think it's pretty clear that, if that's he facet of his personality that a man tries to present to a woman he's interested in, then the rest can't be much better. 

The exception is the stammering dork, for whom nothing is being presented.  Whatever else there is, it has to be better! 

Well, at least one would hope so. 

Akima:

--- Quote from: Near Lurker on 06 Sep 2010, 21:17 ---Did it occur to you at all that the face a man presents to you while he's trying to pick you up might only be a facet of his personality?  Or do you see him as an uncomplicated Martian, existing only to try and fail to fuck you and then go off and get himself killed in some manly contest of strength?
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I see what he chooses to present to me. I see what he chooses to present on the basis of what he believes will impress me. Let us imagine that the pick-up artist is a complex, multi-faceted individual who sings madrigals in his spare time, befriends stray cats, and is kind to his Mum, but chooses to hide that complexity behind his douchebag front. That he does so suggests that he believes the douchebag will appeal to me more than his real self, revealing both a lack of confidence in himself, and a profound contempt for me. Neither is attractive. At all.

IanClark:
I hope Jeph doesn't go too far with this "It's all an act" thing. It risks cheapening the integrity of his characters. I'm hoping the truth is something a little less dire than "So hey... it turns out she's actually been acting the whole time and her entire existence has been a lie."

I think it's as someone mentioned before, and it's not really all an act, just the parts where she pretends not to be a jealous mess specifically as it pertains to being in a relationship. Which would actually only amount to about two or three times where she's been acting, since she doesn't usually pretend she's not paranoid.

pwhodges:
Marten must understand that Dora's problem is not something you just fix.  My first wife dated an arsehole (the knock her up, pretend interest, leave the country kind), and this was still affecting our relationship 15 years and more later.

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