Comic Discussion > QUESTIONABLE CONTENT
WCT 20-24 Sep 10
merv:
--- Quote ---This really bothered me. A lot. I get that Dora's got issues, and wants to look out for her friends, and Hanners doesn't want conflict and respects Dora and such, but honestly. We're talking about adults here who, issues or not, should be able to make these choices. This shouldn't relate to Dora's issues with Sven because Hanners met Dora first - she can't be accused of using Dora (though I do see how Dora could still construe it as such).
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I don't think Dora is uncomfortable with the Sven/Hanners date because of her "issues" with him. I think it's because of his previous horrible treatment of Faye and the awkwardness that followed.
Also, I don't think that Hanners wants to get a rise out of Dora with her reactions in Panel Three, I think she literally just expects that's what your meant to do, as she "studies" Cathy.
(At least I imagine using comics as a way to study the normal social reactions to situations).
nicoley:
I get that Dora is trying to look out for Hanners given Sven's past... but I don't like how she says "... but you can go." acting like it's actually her place to give permission. They are all adults and hanners can do whatever the hell she wants, screw Dora's bs paranoia. While I may be biased because of my long time dislike of Dora, it would annoy me if any other cast member acted this way too.
Tergon:
I... have absolutely no idea why people are surprised that Sven and Hannelore are asking if Dora minds them going on a date. It makes perfect sense if you've read, like, any of the comics at all where the topic of Sven dating people comes up. Sven has a long-running history of basically ruining the lives of the ladies he dates, to the extent where Dora has quite explicitly told him, "Do not date any of my friends!" The one time she let him break that rule, well, we all know what happened with Faye.
As for Hanners, she's an innocent wide-eyed thing who's always inquiring about social norms and wants to learn dating procedure. And she's trying to learn this from, and this is important, a guy whose normal dating procedure is to have a few drinks, make with the sex, and then never speak again. This is basically the sort of thing that you do not want your friends to be exposed to in their first dating experience. Dora is therefore pretty protective of her innocent but nice friend.
Add these to Dora's trust issues and it makes absolutely perfect sense that they'd check to see if she minded before going out on a date. At which point Dora has answered that, "I think this is a bad idea but it is not my place to stop you."
There's no snarkiness, there's no controlling-bitch issues, there's no manipulation. They're actually being completely honest and open about the situation. What the fuck is so confusing about this for everyone?
Also: I too have noticed the very interesting art changes of late. It's less cartoony-style and much more artistic, with realistic features and body structures. For what it's worth from a grumpy Internet person who can't draw a stick figure without fucking it up, I approve!
Akima:
--- Quote from: nicoley on 20 Sep 2010, 00:48 ---I get that Dora is trying to look out for Hanners given Sven's past... but I don't like how she says "... but you can go." acting like it's actually her place to give permission. They are all adults and hanners can do whatever the hell she wants, screw Dora's bs paranoia. While I may be biased because of my long time dislike of Dora, it would annoy me if any other cast member acted this way too.
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Hmmm... Personal autonomy is all well and good, but let us try a thought experiment. Imagine your friend, who had never driven a car before in her life, was proposing to take a Shelby Cobra* at high speed down a wet mountain road. Would you really just think "Meh... She's a grown-up, entitled to make her own decisions," and wave her off? Or try to talk her out of it?
Sven's background is that of a serial philanderer, with serious honesty, personal accountability, and self-control problems, who is (as far as Dora knows) unreformed, and who's shown that he's willing to seriously hurt her friends. Friends don't let friends drive drunk. Friends care enough about friends to try to talk them out of dangerous behaviour.
*With no intended insult to Caroll Shelby. I just asked a petrol-head guy at work for an example of a hot, hairy, high power-to-weight-ratio car from before the days of stability control, with which Americans might be familiar.
Karilyn:
I don't say it.
But I'll be damned if this lady doesn't think that. :|
I should try harder not to be a walking stereotype.
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