I really liked today's comic.
Also, all of you talking about how you do/do not like skinny women: you do realize it is equally as dehumanizing and insulting to us women to hear you proclaim curvy over skinny, since it still says "this is the standard that I think women ought to strive for to be attractive"? If you personally prefer curvy, fine, you can say that (although men tend to state their preferences about women ALL the time as though all of womanhood should care and rush to cater to them). But don't denigrate other body types or classify them as less desirable while you're doing so.
This is an interesting point by the way, but I think it's oversensitive. I do not think hetero men in general believe that their standard
ought to be followed, so much as it is their fantasy that it be followed. I think men in general know they're superficial, and accept it, and assume that women understand that a discussion of whether curvy is better than skinny is only a discussion of preference and fantasy. Why is calling a type of figure less than desirable to yourself an important judgment of that person?
I don't think that most hetero men that state type preference over other types equate such a preference to the universal value of the woman as a person. I think what many people--even the specific men themselves--don't realize is that most heterosexual men generally think of women as having two distinct selves, the self that might or might not sleep with them and that the man might or might not want to sleep with, and the self that doesn't have anything to do with sex. Why does sex have anything to do with actual universal value of the woman as a potential friend, neighbor, countryperson? I think that even if a hetero man is less interested in a woman because she isn't as attractive, that has much less to do with a judgment of her mattering in a universal sense than it is a judgment of her mattering in a sense specific to the man, who is probably in general over-interested in women they find attractive because of how messed up society has tended to teach men to be regarding sex, bravado, masculinity, love, etc.
In other words, claiming that muscly guys are better than skinny guys should not be dehumanizing or insulting to skinny guys, because who is the claimant and why is their opinion of your viability as an object of attraction relevant to anything? The answer is, respectively, it doesn't matter and it isn't unless you're with them or want to be with them.
In the end, maybe your ego doesn't like being thought of as not attractive. But attraction is the poster boy of "eye of the beholder" and I think a whole lot of hetero guys assume that is understood.
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