Comic Discussion > QUESTIONABLE CONTENT
WCDT: 18-22 Oct 2010 (1776-1780)
Carl-E:
Found it.
If anyone really cares.
I guess I did.
Don't know why, really.
Exar_Kun:
So Jeph said in the news post that Dolphins are the assholes of the sea. Just like Humans are the assholes of the land then?
Dliessmgg:
--- Quote from: peterh on 22 Oct 2010, 03:22 ---
--- Quote from: Dliessmgg on 22 Oct 2010, 03:17 ---I think AI's have to be able to rewire themselves (pysically or digitally) in a way that improves their ability to do what they do before the singularity can even be considered a possibility.
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Im sit here, HOPING you mean "physically or LOGICALLY".
If you mean the latter, that ability is already there, and has been for some time.
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Then I haven't heard of it. I have heard of evolutionary algorithms who have "kids" with random changes of which the more efficient ones for a certain task survive, but not of an AI that decides to change itself and also where and how these changes take place so that it gets better. to build an AI seems to be difficult enough for now.
westrim:
--- Quote from: raoullefere on 22 Oct 2010, 00:44 ---
I admit he's somewhat creepy, but that reaction's a little extreme.
(Yes, Raoul did pick this video because of that first image. Jeph has finally corrupted him!)
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I took a survey when they were testing how that campaign would play to the public, and rated it excellent. You're welcome. :-D
However, you worry me when you refer to yourself in the third person.
--- Quote from: peterh on 22 Oct 2010, 00:50 ---Oh, yes, we forgot -- that's your job too, isn't it? :D
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I want to say something witty, but I'm afraid someone will take it seriously.
--- Quote ---It's in fact the Barista Weekly - the Fuck You issue.
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Oh.
--- Quote from: TheoGB on 22 Oct 2010, 00:59 ---What I find interesting is that xkcd has this issue pretty much every week but when someone says they don't get the joke on that forum people bother to tell them what the answer is. Dunno, it takes me two minutes to type this sort of thing out so it's not a big deal for me. I think if your lives are too busy to let you respond with an actual answer then maybe you need some better time management, starting with not wasting your precious minutes on a forum like this.
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No, don't bring this topic up again! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo....
--- Quote from: Dliessmgg on 22 Oct 2010, 01:26 ---People on the xkcd forum are likely to do some research before asking for explanations.
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Damn.
--- Quote from: snubnose on 22 Oct 2010, 02:58 ---So it really was a "technological singularity" ... personally I dont believe that one will ever happen. Thats because intelligence, in my opinion, is, in the end, not mechanic. Kurt Gödels imcompleteness theorem strongly hints that.
Also, to solve the problems of earth, we IMHO dont need more intelligence, we need more empathy.
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Oh snub. I can always rely on you to say something hilariously disconnected.
--- Quote from: raoullefere on 22 Oct 2010, 05:11 ---*'Coffee with Legs'. Walked. I kill me. :laugh:
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Don't do it! You have so much to live for- laughter, smiles, lolcats...
--- Quote from: DarthMark on 22 Oct 2010, 07:42 ---Faye is making a mistake applying human morals to dolphins. We have spiders for whom mating is always a case of rape and then probably being killed, and praying mantises for whom it's a case of being killed and then mating. Among higher animals, most large mammals are polygamous, and males will sometimes drive competing males away from the group, potentially to starve, and even kill the previous dominant male's offspring when taking over. This last behaviour has been observed in cute fuzzy kitty kats.
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But they generally do it for the reasons stated, food and competition and such. Dolphins are one of the few species that are assholes for shits and giggles.
--- Quote from: peterh on 22 Oct 2010, 08:25 ---Theo, Dliessmgg (yes, I had to look in order to spell it correctly) is not the original instigator of the ... let's call it "difference of opinion".
The dispute arose when someone (who already seems to have a bit of a reputation on the forum, or so I've learnt) said he didn't get it, and then someone else (who apparently spends quite a bit of time disagreeing with others and firmly hanging on to his point of view) replied to that in, um, no uncertain terms (and font sizes, and colours).
Dliessmgg is not someone who is known to polarise, and I don't know him as someone who is quick in underestimating people. In fact, I think the two of you would get along just fine outside of the context of this, er, issue.
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There's no reason to be vague, we're all here and so are our previous statements. Snubnose isn't stupid by far, but he can often be thoughtless or express off kilter views. I like a healthy debate and try not to say anything I can't defend. Okay, done rephrasing.
--- Quote from: Carl-E on 22 Oct 2010, 08:41 ---OK, I've been intending to stay out of it,
and I still am, I guess...
but I think the issue was that this whole singularity thing came up before on the forums about a year ago (no, I'm not trawling through old fora to find it).
So I could understand someone thinking "oh lord, here we go again" and trying to avoid all the pages and pages of debate/commentary that happened last time.
Of course, it didn't work, but for completely different reasons!
History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme. (-- Mark Twain)
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Please stay on the line. You will be connected shortly.
--- Quote from: Wiregeek --- Insults and such
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*Pauses, then leans into mic* You're a dick. (Thank you Jon Stewart!)
--- Quote from: Carl-E on 22 Oct 2010, 12:37 ---Found it.
If anyone really cares.
I guess I did.
Don't know why, really.
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Thank you for waiting, your call will now be completed as dialed.
*click*
There it is! 10 months ago, huh? What is that, a week QC time? *dodges tomato*
It's rather illuminating though, what with my megalomania, but also the different tone. Bob asked far more nicely and less bluntly, Akima made insinuations about his intelligence then linked him, which he actually read and I was able to clarify for him. Happy times all around.
I should say that my reaction this time wasn't singularity specific, it was lack of any research specific, though some residue of that previous thread was probably knocking around. Interesting that at least one of the people asking about it was in that thread too, so they clearly had prior chance to learn of it.
--- Quote from: Exar_Kun on 22 Oct 2010, 13:07 ---So Jeph said in the news post that Dolphins are the assholes of the sea. Just like Humans are the assholes of the land then?
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That comparison sounds familiar...
Okay, I'm done finally.
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