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WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
eyosgkxb:
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--- Quote from: eyosgkxb on 15 Nov 2010, 09:26 ---Dora is a bitch, I hope Marten breaks up with her.
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Fuck you
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LOL, looks like someone's life is meaningless without an online relationship he can comment on and enjoy!
Now I really hope they break up. All the fangirls can hope that Tai gets with Dora after a tragic crying mess.
charybdis:
While I will say this is a pretty bitch move by Dora (Oh God don't eat me Dr. Roflpwn.), seeing as Marten specifically said it was private, I'm with the camp saying she doesn't think she's doing anything wrong. The vibe I'm getting from her in this comic & the previous one is "What the hell? Why are you getting so worked up about this? This is dumb." I don't think she really got the concept that pornography may be an extremely awkward topic for him, despite previous comics when Marten is saying "My mother does porn, can we please not talk about it?" Hell, in one of those comics, he asks her to stop talking about his mom, and she does for a split second before continuing. I mean, come on!
If it's a miscommunication, I think it's fairly clearly Dora not paying attention. I know if my fiance said something like that (and let's be honest, his mom is smokin') I'd avoid the topic entirely. I don't think it's intentional so much as she's oblivious and possibly a bit self-centered in that she thinks, "I'm open about porn, why shouldn't he be?"
Also, Moxie, fantastic analysis. I think you're dead on the money with both of them, especially Marten.
Also, side note, it must have gotten at least 2x more awkward for Marten when Dora says "I'll show you mine!" when he knows she faps and/or has fapped to his mom. That reminder probably amped up his Defensive Mode considerably.
someone1074:
Seriously, after all this blatant over-analysis, a part of me hopes that it all boils down to
Dora: "I was just kidding around. I'm sorry."
Marten: "I wasn't. Why didn't you listen to me?"
Dora: "I didn't think this was serious. Forgive me?"
Marten: "Sure."
Prince of Space:
--- Quote from: Border Reiver on 15 Nov 2010, 09:10 ---Jeph read the thread if you must, ignore it if you can. As was said earlier, the hubbub is a teatament to your skills as a writer and your ability to make us give a rat's ass about the characters. Keep that up
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Nothing personal here, but this is not an absolute truth. For instance, I wouldn't call Stephanie Meyers a good writer (quite the opposite) and after skimming one book in particular, I was annoyed/appalled (and bored) enough to actually start complaining about it to no one in particular. This made me feel better even though I knew it wasn't going to change anything. Especially when someone else was there to keep me in check, argue, or agree with me.
So...nothing against Jeph or anyone who agrees with that statement, but just because people are complaining/raising hell over the characters isn't proof of good writing or well fleshed out characters.
About today's comic though, Dora has officially become a unlikeable character to me. She's really done nothing in this comic other than make sassy remarks, become Marten's girlfriend, own a coffee shop, and wash her cat. Oh and have a tattoo. HOWEVER, I think we all need to remember that not that much time has passed yet. She's just moved in with Marten, right? Realistically, she's still dealing with some demons and they've just now moved in together...so those didn't have a chance to seep out until now.
I still don't like her, but this relationship rings realistic to me(albeit annoying). As flat as I think Dora or Marten might be, the problems they're going through are common ones, easy to relate to. I could go either way with them right now.
disaacs:
This isn't about porn, it is about respect.
When it came to personal porn preferences Marten drew a line and said he didn't want to go there. This is so uncharacteristic for Marten that Dora should have immediately figured that this was something to be approached with more feeling. Instead she completely ignored the warning signs. She was obviously looking for something entertaining, and seem disappointed to find nothing special. From Marten's point of view, it looks like she doesn't care about him, or doesn't care about boundaries in general, or gets so caught up in her own entertainment that she forgets about the feelings of others. Any of these is a bad sign.
In a relationship boundaries can be changed. But the changes should be negotiated, not blasted away.
Also, although I agree with Marten being pissed off, he should not have left. Walking out of a disagreement is not going to solve anything.
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