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WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)

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JackFaerie:

--- Quote from: tbones on 15 Nov 2010, 05:45 ---So what's the point in having fantasies, if you don't want to make them true? I agree with you about the privacy between couples, but i don't believe that if you have a fantasy, then you want your sex-life to be completly different to it.

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So I'm gonna assume you watch really tame porn then.  Ok. Some examples:

Some women are really into rape and dominance porn, but only like it as a removed fantasy, and would certainly a) not want to be raped, b) might not even want to act it out as a play-pretend thing. But it might get them off in pure fantasy form.

A guy might be almost exclusively into gangbang/bukakke porn, but be absolutely vanilla in practice, with no interest in actually participating in such a set-up.

On a more innocuous level, I'm someone who's built kinda like Dora and used to be insecure about it, and one of my first boyfriends's porn stash consisted exclusively of extremely large-breasted girl-on-girl porn. Yet his partner choice, before and after myself, showed that his real-life dating preferences often ran to the gamine type (he did get together with some busty girls as well--but if anything, they were the minority). If this were true for Marten, Dora could well have flipped out about it on him: "why do the women you get off to look the absolute opposite of me, " etc etc.

Dusk:

--- Quote from: Delator on 14 Nov 2010, 23:49 ---Prediction: This fight spirals into a break-up.

Dora utilizes the time to iron out sibling issues with Sven...their parallel relationship issues enabling them to work around previous obstacles, they both become better people in the long run.

Marten and Hanners rescue Amir from a raging Allosaurus and transform Deathmole into a commecial and popular success at at least the regional level.

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I agree with part of your second statement, kinda--I think it'd be interesting if now Marten goes to Sven again for girl advice, etc, and we Sven becoming a better person, especially after the date with Hanners. BUT Dora seems to be going in the opposite direction, almost (almost!) as if she and Sven are switching roles (in a weird, twisted sort of way). My two cents.

Also I say yes to the last bit, too. That will have to happen at some point. ...Speaking of which, when was the last time we saw Deathmole? Amir's been super absent recently.


--- Quote from: JackFaerie on 15 Nov 2010, 10:51 ---Some women are really into rape and dominance porn, but only like it as a removed fantasy, and would certainly a) not want to be raped, b) might not even want to act it out as a play-pretend thing. But it might get them off in pure fantasy form.

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This is where we get fanfiction of Mary-Sues in such scenarios. It all makes sense now!


--- Quote from: eyosgkxb on 15 Nov 2010, 10:07 ---Now I really hope they break up. All the fangirls can hope that Tai gets with Dora after a tragic crying mess.

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Wait wait wait what about Tai and Marigold?! SPACE WIZARDS.

Moxie:

--- Quote from: charybdis on 15 Nov 2010, 10:17 ---Also, Moxie, fantastic analysis. I think you're dead on the money with both of them, especially Marten.
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Hey, thanks! I think your two following points are also quite true:


--- Quote from: charybdis on 15 Nov 2010, 10:17 ---I don't think it's intentional so much as she's oblivious and possibly a bit self-centered in that she thinks, "I'm open about porn, why shouldn't he be?"

Also, side note, it must have gotten at least 2x more awkward for Marten when Dora says "I'll show you mine!" when he knows she faps and/or has fapped to his mom. That reminder probably amped up his Defensive Mode considerably.
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--- Quote from: disaacs on 15 Nov 2010, 10:47 ---Also, although I agree with Marten being pissed off, he should not have left. Walking out of a disagreement is not going to solve anything.
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While walking out itself certainly isn't going to solve anything, there's quite a lot of good about walking out when one is too upset to discuss something rationally. In fact, that's a conflict-helping strategy - wait until you're cooled down to talk about what happened in a manner that isn't inflammatory and runs the risk of saying something that is said in a moment of anger that isn't really meant. This is now the second time Marten's gotten so upset with Dora that he's walked out of the conversation, and I think good on him for realizing he isn't in a good position to really discuss the problem. Marten is definitely about trying to be reasonable, and he seems to know himself well enough to know when he won't be.

edit: wait, I don't think this is the second time. I was thinking about the underwear argument, but he just went for a walk after Dora "kicked him out" of the bedroom, right?

LeeC:
didnt Tai already say she couldnt be with Dora even if they broke up because marten's already been inside her?

IanClark:
This arc actually makes it clear just what Dora's problem is: She's a storyteller. Not as in a pathological liar, but as in someone who experiences a great deal of their lives attempting to live out the narratives they think they're involved in rather than looking at the evidence around them and assessing a situation. Case in point: The underwear fight. Dora sees Marten and Faye in their underwear, thinks "I know this story" and it then takes quite a bit of time to convince her that what's actually going on is not much at all. Then you come to this arc. Marten acts all flustered and defensive and doesn't want to share his porn tastes. Faye suggests he has some kind of secret fetish. Without having to blink, Dora can finish this one off: she'll check his porn, and even though he'll object, it will be a mostly facetious objection for the laugh factor. Then she'll find out he has some embarrassing fetish, and again, laughs will be had by all. Finally, she'll tell him she still loves him and is okay with his fetish, and the studio audience will let out a collective "aww". Finally, she'll make some comment implying she might like to try whatever he's into some time and we'll be left with a giant "OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH!" moment to end the scene on.

What Faye seems to be realizing in the last panel of Friday's comic is that things don't always work like a network sitcom. Not only is Marten fully entitled to his privacy whether or not it would be funny, but he's also not particularly likely to willingly walk into a situation that casts him as the loveable loser. While Marten did kind of make it ambiguous with his somewhat comical reactions ("Once you open that Pandora's box, it can't be closed again"), Dora should've realized that this is real life (well, in a manner of speaking) and people's feelings are actually more important than how things would probably play out on the silver screen. It's a fairly easy problem to deal with. It just means she's a little misanthropic and needs to somehow gain a more full appreciation for the human condition.

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