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WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
hannahsaurusrex:
--- Quote from: ChibiSoma on 15 Nov 2010, 16:12 ---
She wants to basically dominate every aspect of his life. Anything outside of that control, she has a shit fit about. And she won't fucking listen to reason until someone basically gets in her face and screams at her to shut the fuck up. I dunno about you guys, but if I had a 'friend' who acted like that, and wouldn't go fuckin' get help for it, he/she would not be my 'friend' for very god damn long. How many times does this shit need to happen before Marten grows some testicles and tells Dora to see a fucking therapist or something? How about an ultimatum if she doesn't? "You either get your god damn head straightened out or you can get the hell out of my apartment."
"What? A hug?! No pants?! I don't need context - FUCK YOU!"
"What? Porn? He doesn't want me to see? I'LL LOOK ANYWAY IT IS MY RIGHT!"
Jesus. Dora is the worst person in this strip, hands down. Sven is a better person than Dora. Sven just sells dreams. Dora causes nightmares.
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Do I dare ask who's your favorite?
Dora has enough control in her life, what she needs is confidence.
Basically you want Marten to tell his girlfriend who he loves, and who genuinely loves him back to hit the road because she gets upset at irrational things and tells him?
Would you rather her bottle it up? Would that make her less of a bitch, her keeping all of her doubts, insecurities, and annoyances bottled up, and then after he's forgotten about it bring them ALL up in one big MEGABITCH moment?
I know I would rather have a 4ft geyser erupt occasionally (filled with steam but only lasting a bit), than a full on Mt St Helens eruption with no prompting whatsoever.
She doesn't abuse him, she doesn't tell him he's crap, she supports his decisions, GETS HIS JOKES, encourages a social life that she doesn't have to be in all the time, AND puts up with Pintsize. PLUS THEY MAKE EACH OTHER HAPPY. You might hate that fact, but they do.
I don't think any fight they've had singularly or combined validates a break-up, or her being called a "fucking banshee." Even if she was in the wrong, she addressed it and accepted her fault.
If these two break up (for good, not a midnight one), it will be because they have become incompatible, not because she occasionally gets upset.
ChippyD:
I also think people are forgetting how Martin went to another state for a girl, selling all his stuff, and leaving everyone he knew behind for her.
He's got a devotion complex, and he's not about to let someone go unless they kick him off their leg.
DoubleJ:
--- Quote from: hannahsaurusrex on 15 Nov 2010, 12:37 ---Or do you want a new girlfriend introduced? One who is needy, tramples his boundaries without a second thought, paranoid, attractive when she's acting like a grown-up, looks down her nose at her own employees, and only exhibits panic when Marten's not toeing the line? OH WAIT, that's Dora.
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Fixed that for ya. And for those who argue that we have a skewed perspective here because of comic-time, remember that goes the other way too. The underwear blow up, a month ago for us, was just a couple days ago for Marten (assuming there hasn't been another mini-time-skip).
This isn't necessarily break-up material (though if it were me a break-up would be in the ultimatum I'd give about listening when I say something is off-limits) but I'd have to wonder what's going on with a woman who's causing two blow-ups like this inside a week.
Edit: Also, what ChippyD said.
hannahsaurusrex:
You got a point about the time thing, but between the Sven/Faye thing and Underpants incident, that was MORE than a month.
I might actually try to timeline this shit. (It's really dead at work tonight)
MarkCorrigan:
--- Quote from: hannahsaurusrex on 15 Nov 2010, 17:20 ---
Basically you want Marten to tell his girlfriend who he loves, and who genuinely loves him back to hit the road because she gets upset at irrational things and tells him?
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Except that isn't what's happening. It used to be, she would do a minor panicky "do oo still wuv me?" moment and he'd say yes and it would be fine. No big deal, she's insecure and he helps her with it. Instead, she's exploding at him for little to no reason, or totally ignoring his privacy which he explicitly told her he wanted to keep at a certain point. Just because you are ok with sharing something with someone else doesn't give you the right to demand to have the same information about them.
--- Quote from: hannahsaurusrex on 15 Nov 2010, 17:20 ---Would you rather her bottle it up? Would that make her less of a bitch, her keeping all of her doubts, insecurities, and annoyances bottled up, and then after he's forgotten about it bring them ALL up in one big MEGABITCH moment?
I know I would rather have a 4ft geyser erupt occasionally (filled with steam but only lasting a bit), than a full on Mt St Helens eruption with no prompting whatsoever.
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Alternatively, she could, you know, get help so she doesn't go psycho over tiny little things without listening to anyone and respects other people's privacy.
--- Quote from: hannahsaurusrex on 15 Nov 2010, 17:20 ---She doesn't abuse him, she doesn't tell him he's crap, she supports his decisions, GETS HIS JOKES, encourages a social life that she doesn't have to be in all the time, AND puts up with Pintsize. PLUS THEY MAKE EACH OTHER HAPPY. You might hate that fact, but they do.
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She's also made him really angry recently, and she annoys the hell out of him by being clingy, needy and insecure. It's not like he's only started to complain about this recently, he's had a few "Why can't you accept I'm happy with you?" moments. Each time, it seems to me he's getting that little bit less forgiving and a little more pissed off.
--- Quote from: hannahsaurusrex on 15 Nov 2010, 17:20 ---I don't think any fight they've had singularly or combined validates a break-up, or her being called a "fucking banshee." Even if she was in the wrong, she addressed it and accepted her fault.
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So, you don't think that the fact she started a fight because he got a haircut without consulting her was an issue? That is an exhibition of a demanded level of control over the relationship (and some wonderful double standards) that would make ME uncomfortable. Added together the fact she explicitly ignores his request for privacy and doesn't seem to see anything wrong with that, AND the pantsgate explosion AND the constant "You don't still want to bone Faye do you? Because I think you do" shtick AND the whole test about the girl asking him out thing I'm amazed that Marten hasn't gotten into a screaming match with her yet. He (and you, apparently) must have the patience of a saint.
--- Quote from: hannahsaurusrex on 15 Nov 2010, 17:20 ---If these two break up (for good, not a midnight one), it will be because they have become incompatible, not because she occasionally gets upset.
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See above.
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