Comic Discussion > QUESTIONABLE CONTENT
WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
jwhouk:
--- Quote from: someone1074 on 15 Nov 2010, 10:29 ---Seriously, after all this blatant over-analysis, a part of me hopes that it all boils down to
Dora: "I was just kidding around. I'm sorry."
Marten: "I wasn't. Why didn't you listen to me?"
Dora: "I didn't think this was serious. Forgive me?"
Marten: "Sure."
--- End quote ---
Nope. Didn't go that way.
And now, the REAL deluge will begin...
jwhouk:
Dora and Marten?
This is the end. It's over. Stay tuned for Conan. - 10 (9.9%)
Just another speed bump. - 9 (8.9%)
Serious test of the relationship time. - 15 (14.9%)
Dora is completely clueless at the moment. - 17 (16.8%)
You think this is bad? It'll get worse, trust me. - 19 (18.8%)
Marten caves in three, two, one... - 13 (12.9%)
Pintsize finds the hidden folder - and freezes up! - 9 (8.9%)
The strip is now all about Faye, Angus and Marigold. - 5 (5%)
JUST GOOGLE IT ALREADY! - 1 (1%)
Okay, okay, use Bing if you really want to. - 3 (3%)
Total Voters: 101
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Guess what? It got worse.
IanClark:
This is reminding me a lot of my last relationship, to the point where it's actually bringing back a lot of painful memories. Dora needs to get help, now. What Marten seems to realize that a lot of people don't is that this is in fact the same issue as the underpants fight. It's not just "Oh she's a bitch and she'll never get better because she's just FUNDAMENTALLY AWFUL IN EVERY WAY", it's one singular, very pointed issue: she underestimates people. She underestimated Faye and Marten's integrity then, and she underestimated the depth and genuineness of Marten's feelings here. She acted as though his feelings weren't real, or as though they were irrelevant. She treats other people like shit, which doesn't just mean "badly", it means she treats people as though they're shit. People cheat, people lie, people aren't really entitled to their privacy because all of their secrets are just further evidence of their often comical flaws, and as such can ultimately be exploited for laughs. It's not part of her fundamental nature because when she's presented with it, she identifies her error and usually shows remorse for it. In short, she's just jaded. She can get help and she can get better. She just needs to get serious about it, which she didn't do after the last fight.
bicostp:
--- Quote from: jwhouk on 15 Nov 2010, 18:48 ---Nope. Didn't go that way.
--- End quote ---
Give it time. Pretty much every Marten v. Dora fight has ended that way eventually.
1. One does something the other doesn't like
2. The other makes things worse with poor wording
3. Big blowup
4. A few days of moping
5. "I'm sorry let's just pretend it never happened even though I'm still mad at you".
:|
I just hope something becomes of this. Marten stops letting his irritation build up, Dora becomes a little more self-aware... Something besides "I'm sorry yeah me too forget about it whatever".
Ravenswing:
--- Quote from: rje on 15 Nov 2010, 18:32 ---Ehhhh that so did not look or sound like an actual apology to me - did it really, to you? It sounded like one of those 'I'm sorry you were offended' non-apology apologies. I mean she even said 'I didn't think it was any big deal' with this look on her face that would make it sound to me like 'I don't think IT SHOULD BE a big deal'
--- End quote ---
At least Marten, in sober moments, agrees that it's best to abide by Dora's boundaries, however much he chafes at being restricted for the sins of others.
Dora, by contrast, doesn't really believe that Marten SHOULD have boundaries, and certainly doesn't feel she has to abide by them one inch further than her whim at the moment takes her. "I didn't think it was any big deal" is so very much not the point. It doesn't HAVE to be a big deal. Either she respects Marten's wishes and understands such irrational psychic boundaries as he has, or she doesn't.
And if she doesn't respect the areas in which he's twiggy, why in the merry hell should he bother over hers?
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