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WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
IanClark:
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--- Quote from: helloandgoodbye on 15 Nov 2010, 20:08 ---some people on here are acting like she's a soul-less manipulative bitch.
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You know, she's the one providing the ammo for that.
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If you took only what she's doing now, removed all the context provided and decided not to give anyone the benefit of the doubt even a little bit, yes. But the people who are basically deciding she's irredeemable or fundamentally horrible are ignoring her troubled past and the long list of altruistic things she's done. I prefer to see the good in people, even fictional people, and I think that hating Dora, or indeed almost any character in the strip, requires a deliberate effort to not do that.
jwhouk:
Good Lord, we might hit 10 pages by tomorrow night.
KOODustin:
--- Quote from: mickcheese on 15 Nov 2010, 20:13 ---
Personally, I think this will end up strengthening the relationship and relieving a lot of tension between the two of them. Which would be like Kryptonite to the Dora's-a-miserable-cunt crowd.
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No, I think we'd still find Dora to be a miserable cunt. I think a big part of it is that we like the character of Marten so much we want to see someone worthy of him with him. It's like a friend dating a girl you know isn't right for him and basically walks all over him and wanting better for him.
And I have to say, if you boil it down to simply "looking at his porn" it's de-legitimizing his anger. That's not what she did. She invaded his privacy and that is a HUGE deal.
AnAverageWriter:
--- Quote from: helloandgoodbye on 15 Nov 2010, 20:18 --- -sigh- But I guess some people need a scapegoat...
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NOBODY is "scapegoating" anyone. As sirisaacnuton so aptly said, this event is the culmination of a larger series of events. One droplet in a bucket will annoy whoever has the bucket stuck on his head. A torrent of droplets will drown the poor soul.
sirisaacnuton:
The combination of http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1737 and http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1739 I think speaks worlds to what Marten's really feeling about Dora, and also Faye.
These little touches were kinda overshadowed by the explosion that came a couple panels later, but in general I think they show there's a lot more under the surface here...besides the fights (or repressed non-fights), besides the other issues. Faye's using Marten as a meterstick to compare her feelings about Angus, and Martens appears to be feeling like something's missing, and that he's not exactly super happy. These two comics I thought were some of the most interested and thought-provoking I'd seen in a while, even more so than the ones with the blowups.
The Marten in panel 4 of 1739 needs out of this relationship. Maybe he's finally found an opportunity to seize control of the Marten who likes Dora, the Marten who just wants someone, and the Marten who doesn't want to hurt anyone's feelings.
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