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WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
mickcheese:
--- Quote from: helloandgoodbye on 15 Nov 2010, 20:18 ---The thing is that I just don't see it. She doesn't strike me as manipulative at all. Just a girl who has some insecurity issues she needs to get sorted out.
-sigh- But I guess some people need a scapegoat...
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Most Americans. We like to know there's a villain responsible for everything. Listen to any American politician give a speech. They don't talk about what they will do to fix problems or to prevent future problems, instead they spend the whole speech assigning blame for the current problems.
And it works. The Republicans just swept into office on a campaign that consisted entirely of that. And the Democrats did the same thing two years ago.
helloandgoodbye:
--- Quote from: sirisaacnuton on 15 Nov 2010, 20:17 ---
--- Quote from: helloandgoodbye on 15 Nov 2010, 20:08 ---
--- Quote from: mickcheese on 15 Nov 2010, 19:19 ---Martin's been letting his frustrations build up for a long time and he exploded about a relatively minor indiscretion. If he'd taken the time to actually talk to Dora about his frustration after the last fight they could have avoided this escalation.
As for Dora, her reaction to his overreaction is too dramatic and a bit silly. Fights happen in relationships, and when they get bad hurtful things are said. Take a timeout, go cool off, but that's certainly not "it then".
I hope this arc ends with Martin realizing that being a nice guy doesn't mean ignoring problems and repressing your anger until it explodes and Dora (and half the forum) realizing that the Sword of Damocles isn't hanging over their relationship just waiting for the first chance to end things.
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This is one of the most reasonable posts in the thread.
What Dora did just now wasn't that big of a deal. Yeah, she should have respected his privacy, but some people on here are acting like she's a soul-less manipulative bitch. She and Marten just need to work out their problems.
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But what people have been saying is that if this were all that had happened, it wouldn't be all that big a deal and would be an overreaction. But it's not. I'm not saying soulless manipulative bitch, but her blowup over the pantsless Faye episode would have had me seriously considering a relationship with her if it'd been me. The not bothering to listen to him or take him seriously adds more fuel to the fire, and then the nerve to turn it back on him and call him a prick because he got mad is more than enough fuel for a s***storm. No, looking at Marten's porn isn't that big a deal. But the whole of her behavior toward him of late is a very big deal, it's not a little thing, and it was pretty wrong to do to a S.O.
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The problem here is that people are ignoring the reasons that Marten is at fault here as well.
Dora invaded Marten's privacy. Yes. She apologized. Yes. Instead of trying to, you know, explain to Dora why he was angry, he basically attacked her about a subject that she is rather sensitive about and is irrelevant to the situation. Dora is right. Marten is being a little vindictive.
And Dora actually was listening to Marten's side in this instance. She realized that he was right and apologized and explained why she did what she did. Instead of explaining to Dora why it was a big deal to him, he brought up things from the past, which, frankly, is only going to get the other person on the offensive.
They are both at fault here. Not just Dora.
gathayah:
--- Quote from: mickcheese on 15 Nov 2010, 20:26 ---
--- Quote from: helloandgoodbye on 15 Nov 2010, 20:18 ---The thing is that I just don't see it. She doesn't strike me as manipulative at all. Just a girl who has some insecurity issues she needs to get sorted out.
-sigh- But I guess some people need a scapegoat...
--- End quote ---
Most Americans. We like to know there's a villain responsible for everything. Listen to any American politician give a speech. They don't talk about what they will do to fix problems or to prevent future problems, instead they spend the whole speech assigning blame for the current problems.
And it works. The Republicans just swept into office on a campaign that consisted entirely of that. And the Democrats did the same thing two years ago.
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...Okay I'm sorry, but what does this have to do with the comic? o.O
DominicSparkles:
--- Quote from: Soluzar on 15 Nov 2010, 18:54 ---< snip >
Aside from anything else, a man attracted to Faye probably doesn't find all that much appeal in Dora physically.
< /snip >
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Oh, seriously? Because I have been attracted to all shapes and sizes of women. And men, for that matter. Variety is the spice of life!
IanClark:
--- Quote from: sirisaacnuton on 15 Nov 2010, 20:24 ---The Marten in panel 4 of 1739 needs out of this relationship. Maybe he's finally found an opportunity to seize control of the Marten who likes Dora, the Marten who just wants someone, and the Marten who doesn't want to hurt anyone's feelings.
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I know that look. It's the look that says "Son of a bitch, this is going to hurt either way." He knows things need to change, but that doesn't mean he wants them to end completely.
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