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WCDT 15-19 November 2010 (1796-1800)
helloandgoodbye:
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--- Quote from: helloandgoodbye on 15 Nov 2010, 20:30 --- They are both at fault here. Not just Dora.
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No, they aren't.
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I never said that it absolved Dora. I just said that Marten did not handle the situation as well as he could have either.
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I think I got the quote tags right. :)
I find this comment intriguing. During the underwear incident I think there were several people who made comments pertaining to the fact that if Marten had handled the situation with Faye better - in other words, remembered to put on some pants - there never would have been an issue. If Marten had just remembered this one little thing, Dora might have not have been so upset about it. Two things though - it was a situation where he saw a panicked friend and didn't think beyond helping comfort her, and it isn't known for sure that Dora still might not have been upset because Faye was in her undies too, and that could have led to things.
I don't understand why it's Marten's responsibility to behave in a reasonable, rational manner and think of all things he should do to make sure Dora is kept happy at all times. He's a person. He's going to have faults. He's going to be angry. He's not going to behave in a reasonable manner. Especially in a fight. Sure, neither party made great choices, but I still say it is Dora's insecurities and her not working on them (even though she said she would) that have really led to this fight.
(And I'm really not trying to bash on Dora here. I get that obviously Marten's got issues too. But I think the underlying cause of all of this is through Dora herself, and it's made worse by her inability to see that.)
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I disagree. I don't see how Dora's insecurities caused this fight at all. After all, it was Marten who brought up her insecurities. The main thing was that she wasn't respecting his privacy.
This is different than the underwear incident in that Marten did not think about putting on pants. It was not calculated at all. This time he purposely attacked Dora's insecurities because he was angry with her.
If you're going to argue that Marten doesn't have right to always be rational, then you can argue the same thing for Dora.
While I agree that Dora was mostly at fault in the Faye-Marten Underwear Incident, I disagree that she's just as much at fault here.
Irenfrea:
In Yelling Bird words: FUCK YEAH.
This strip needed a couple of extra panels with a Pintsize punchline. Anyways I just hope that this doesn't goes as the regular happy endings seen before on these situations.
Lychee:
--- Quote from: CatJuggling on 15 Nov 2010, 21:25 ---No, that wasn't a joke, that was a bluff. Totally different. His stuttering both before and after indicate he was uncomfortable with the subject. The bluff was a desperate attempt to disuade them. Of course, the idiot was bluffing Faye and Dora, which he should have known wouldn't work. Hanners and Mari, maybe, but not Faye and Dora.
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See, I think that him saying that just fueled and encouraged it. While it may have intentionally been a bluff, the type of humor used in this comic can be very similar to this, and it could easily be perceived as just that.
Torlek:
I'm kinda surprised nobody's thrown this out yet so I'll be "that guy" and add more powder to the keg. Dora's been on a bit of a hair trigger lately and, dare I say, almost hormonal. I seriously doubt anyone wants to see it happen, but what if Dora's knocked up?
Also, Re: the people saying Marten's at fault though and Dora apologized.
Yes, Marten's at fault. It only takes one person to ruin a relationship but two people can mess it up all the more efficiently. And Marten has committed the massive faux pas of going from uber submissive to "won't take it anymore" at the flick of a switch because he's let it build up for too long. But how many times can Dora say, "I'm sorry for being crazy. I'll change," then not change, and things still be OK? How many times before "I'm sorry" starts to ring hollow? Words are cheap. I'm also going to throw in with the body language crowd. Dora's face and the tone I'm getting don't say, "I realize I messed up." They say, "What's your problem, pansy?" She's not sorry for being wrong, she's sorry for getting caught.
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--- Quote from: Lychee on 15 Nov 2010, 21:18 ---Ok, I made an account on here just so I could comment..
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Ha! Me too!
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I think we're just three of many. I'd be curious to see how many new accounts get generated in the next 24 hours.
PenguinNinja1408:
I don't know if this has been brought up, but Dora's words in Friday's comic was "I'm going to go ask Pintsize". And then she went on Marten's computer... so... she never really asked permission? I guess? I don't really know if that's relevant, but it's out there now.
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