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WCDT: 13-17 Dec 2010 (1816-20)
tomart:
--- Quote from: Polonius on 15 Dec 2010, 04:03 --- The problem is that what he said was more true than false. And, not to sound like an apologist, but wouldn't Faye need to apologize for, I dunno, knocking marten out? I don't know about your circle of friends, but violence is worse than words.
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Sorry, but given the state he's in, and the whole background they share, what he said does NOT seem all that out of line to me. And, assuming she punched him as hard as it looks - AGAIN!!!!! (how many times is it, now? and again WITHOUT much justification* - he's not the kind of guy who would ever do what she's defending against!)
The "selfish two-year-old that lurks in us all" is a fair description of Faye's Marten-punching. Go back and look at them all - he never did anything deserving the painful, brutal attacks that left real bruises which he endured the whole time he was infatuated and patiently waiting for her.
* given this level of violence to her docile, muddled best friend, what measure of brutality does she reserve for a potential rapist? Castration? No, she just threatened Angus with that, for a trivial offense. Probably torture, death, hanging, poisoning, drowning, castration, disembowelment, defenestration, AND decapitation. All at once.
Edit: I am sorry for those of you who fear, or have suffered actual assault; my main point is that This is MARTEN Here! He's the good, decent person at the center of QC, and I don't see him EVER doing the creepy, abusive, violent things that can happen in RL. Women don't have to protect themselves from Marten Reed.
Mustakyy:
--- Quote from: cyro on 15 Dec 2010, 11:59 ---
Taking the comic and blowing it out of all proportion is half the fun here.
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Aint this the truth. :-D
Seriously talking, WTF?? This just keeps getting more and more miserable (and, i admit, SO interesting). I'd never thought Marten would succumb to being that kind of dick, drunk or not. But on the other hand, Fayes reaction was quite extreme. Sure, Marten DID deserve some good ol' smacking for being Creepy & Quite Offensive, but still... KO with one blow (and presumably with some muay thai strike) was kinda steep. (thou i admit that it might have been just a combo-KO from a bourbon & punch, cos as we've seen, Marten aint the guy who could chug down a whole bottle with ease)
For my prediction of the near future, it'll hold apologies from both parties (Marten way more than Faye, but still, I think either of em is happy, what happened..). Im having quite hard time believing that Martens streak of bad luck would transform him to Creepy Scumbag or Faye thinking "fuck this and fuck him". But the dude WILL have quite awful case of hangover (AND bruising, both mental and physical :-D :-D ), so i think hijinks will ensue. (or Jeph will shock us with even more depressing storyarc, just to mess with the bearhat legion).
And NO, i DONT think Faye will tell about the nights shenanigans to ANYONE.
azurite:
--- Quote from: PureLionHeart on 15 Dec 2010, 12:39 ---
--- Quote from: azurite on 15 Dec 2010, 12:26 ---I think we might be missing the obvious "then Hanners can CLONE him," perhaps accidentally, perhaps multiple times, so everyone can have a Marten of their very own, to do whatever they want with, be it enacting anime or whathaveyou. Hilarity definitely ensues!
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I was going to say that, but she very specifically shot that option down previously with SCIENCE!
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At least as far as we know... who knows what she keeps in that off-site storage locker of hers... :evil:
Why is it so fun to talk about Hanners in this way? It is, I mean, it's very fun, but what exactly does that say about my personality?!
azurite:
--- Quote from: Mustakyy on 15 Dec 2010, 13:04 ---
And NO, i DONT think Faye will tell about the nights shenanigans to ANYONE.
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Ehh, I don't think so either, but I'm not going to blame her if she's shaken up and actually does need to talk to someone about her best friend's transformation into Mr. Creepball Hyde. Given her options, her therapist would be the most plausible and responsible, though her boyfriend is most readily available. Kind of hoping we don't go there, because it might make Angus a little less mature about the conversation he and Faye had earlier, potentially make this depressing situation even more depressing. Or hilarious, depending on how you feel about drunken breakup drama.
sitnspin:
As a survivor of more than one sexual assault, I would have reacted just as violently as Faye to a drunken male friend attempting to grab me and force a kiss. Survival instincts. I may or may not forgive him later, taking the booze and emotional state into account, but the fight-or-flight instinctual reaction would be the same. Marten deserved a physical reaction. Faye's reaction may have been more violent than was necessary when viewed in purely logical hindsight, but when that sort of situation is occurring, the will to survive overrides all of that and expecting her to only apply the minimum necessary amount of force is unfair and unrealistic.
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