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WCDT: 13-17 Dec 2010 (1816-20)

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Razgriz:
One thing to keep in mind is that Marten has been drinking alone while having reason to be depressed for, like, probably hours now since Hanners left.  Meanwhile, Faye has been out making out with Angus.  That set off my 'shouldn't you be with Marten?  He's always been there for you' alarms yesterday and I'm sober and only thought about it for a minute.  Poor guy's super drunk and had a long time to build up resentment.  'Why is Faye with Angus and not here' is a question that could reasonably lead a drunk person to reach the conclusions he has.  Does that excuse his behavior?  No.  But really, Faye made out with Angus the whole night the day after an earth-shattering moment for her best friend.  I don't know about you guys, but when bad things happen to people, friends are supposed to be there for them, not show up after hours of drinking alone and brooding to receive the brunt of their mood and then play the victim when their friend is mean.

lunakitten:
If Faye had punched Marten because he went off on her verbally- telling her all the things he said and worse, I would see why (and probably agree) people think she was being extreme in her reaction. He grabbed (or made a grab for) her. That's not OK, and she did what she felt she needed to do (or reacted instinctually to threat, but I can't blame her for it). I don't like violence myself, but I  can empathise with the reation.

Kazukagii:
*Carefully picks up a dickbroom*
I've never held one of these before. It isn't going to... well get all over me, is it? Meh...

So for my 100th POST!!!!! I figure I'd just like to throw two pennies into the "Drunk Marten Confession Hour" hat.

Q. Did Marten really mean what he said to Faye? Does he actually believe all this deep down?
A. No. I really don't think he did. Marten is angry, and bitter, and drunk. As the good Dr. ROFLPWN put so well, Marten is not dealing with his problems well. Can you blame him? This is the second relationship - in a row as far as we know - that Marten has put himself 110% into making a relationship work, and it still failed on him. His go with the flow attitude cracked, and he turned to the booze looking for some small form of comfort. Lying there on that couch he started to think normal drunk thoughts, such as blaming everybody else for your own problems. Hell, if anything he borrowed the idea from Dora, who was initially pissed that Faye hooked up with Sven for basically this exact same reason. Marten didn't mean any of what he said, he was simply drunk and angry and trying to find any possible way to point a finger.

That's all I have to say. Jeph said this is a deep as he's willing to go, so I'm pretty sure we're going to see Veronica showing up shortly to lend Marten a shoulder to cry on.

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One of these days, Warning. One of these days  :police:

Somnus Eternus:

--- Quote from: Razgriz on 15 Dec 2010, 18:49 ---I don't know about you guys, but when bad things happen to people, friends are supposed to be there for them, not show up after hours of drinking alone and brooding to receive the brunt of their mood and then play the victim when their friend is mean.

--- End quote ---

Okay, except that 1.) Marten pushed Faye away, insisting he'd be fine and that he'd prefer to be alone, and 2.) Faye is not his mother.  Her life isn't going to come to a screeching halt because her best friend's love life imploded.  She's not going to hover over him like a mother hen after he asked for space and then have him resent her for it.

I think her going out and seeing Angus after was the right thing for her to do.  It gave her a chance to decompress after spending the workday with weepy!Dora and weepy!Hanners (before Hanners left to see Marten), and it gave Marten some of the space he asked for.  I'm sure she expected him to be in a state when she got home, but we've all been there.

In other words, I guess what I'm trying to say is that I don't think it's fair to pick on Faye for allowing her life to go on despite her adult friend's personal problems, particularly since she's given every indication that she intends to be there for him as much as he needs her.

jwhouk:
By the way, I have not yet (to my knowledge) gotten one of those "Warning" notices.

Maybe it's because of the skin I chose for this forum; maybe it's because of settings; maybe it's just clean living and 40+ WPM typing skillz.

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