Comic Discussion > QUESTIONABLE CONTENT
WCDT: 13-17 Dec 2010 (1816-20)
mira:
This just keeps getting stranger and stranger. People should stop projecting their own problems and experiences on these characters and, if you must, analyze them instead based on the context of the story. This is not dismissing your pain or your experience if you've been sexually assaulted. I am simply saying that this comic is not attempting to make any statement about sexual assault or crime. Note, no assault happened, characters acted in ways they normally do (whether you like that she socked him or not) and things have moved on in the story.
Jeph said nothing to demean anyone's experience as a victim of sexual assault. Seriously? Talk about out of character. Don't know the guy but I definitely have seen NOTHING to lend itself to that interpretation.
Please, remember we are talking about the comic in here, not commenting on your real life experiences. Sometimes stories don't match reality and they definitely don't always match our personal realities. So, in commenting on his creation, this comic, he was in no way, I'm sure, meaning to make some statement about your situation.
pwhodges:
--- Quote from: Odin on 16 Dec 2010, 09:54 ---Read this article (PDF) for a bit more clarity on why that particular argument is fallacious at best
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But that article doesn't quite say it's fallacious at best; it presents a comparison and discussion of five or so different points of view on intentionalism, with a clear bias away from actual intentionalism. It is easy to see how authors can get annoyed at critics when they argue that their work has a different meaning from that they intended, and all the more so when they have been persuaded (as in this case) to explain what the intended meaning is.
When I started to study Physics at university, I discovered an alternative called Engineering Science, and changed to it. I did this because it was more closely concerned with the real world I live in. Similarly, I have little time for this kind of philosophical argument, which I regard rather as a modern-day equivalent of counting the number of angels who can dance on the head of a pin. You may see this as a failing in me - but I think it's not uncommon!
adrialexi:
Thank you for your comments. It is not the comic as much as the discussion here that bothers me. As this situation is too triggering and all of the "any reasonable/rational/sane" statements are the main cause, I will disengage from this thread.
Superkid11:
--- Quote from: mira on 16 Dec 2010, 10:27 ---This just keeps getting stranger and stranger. People should stop projecting their own problems and experiences on these characters and, if you must, analyze them instead based on the context of the story. This is not dismissing your pain or your experience if you've been sexually assaulted. I am simply saying that this comic is not attempting to make any statement about sexual assault or crime. Note, no assault happened, characters acted in ways they normally do (whether you like that she socked him or not) and things have moved on in the story.
Jeph said nothing to demean anyone's experience as a victim of sexual assault. Seriously? Talk about out of character. Don't know the guy but I definitely have seen NOTHING to lend itself to that interpretation.
Please, remember we are talking about the comic in here, not commenting on your real life experiences. Sometimes stories don't match reality and they definitely don't always match our personal realities. So, in commenting on his creation, this comic, he was in no way, I'm sure, meaning to make some statement about your situation.
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This, oh god, a million times this. Jesus christ.
The Duke:
--- Quote from: Skewbrow on 16 Dec 2010, 05:30 ---
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--- Quote from: jeph on 16 Dec 2010, 02:14 ---*having said this, I am now guaranteed to plagiarize myself by accident sometime in the next year. Fuck.
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Not sure if it is legally possible to plagarize yourself.
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I'm afraid such unethical practices are not unheard of in the academiae. For the purpose of making your list of publications look longer than it actually is. I am uncertain as to whether it is illegal, i.e. whether you could be tried for that in a court of law, but it is most certainly frowned upon.
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It has been brought to court (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fogerty_v._Fantasy), in one of the stupider things ever to occur in the judicial system, along with one of the most badass - Fogerty won the case by literally bringing a guitar to the witness stand.
--- Quote from: cesariojpn on 15 Dec 2010, 22:50 ---I've scanned, and I dunno if I missed it, but how would Veronica's warning to Faye on harming Martin apply to this situation?
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As long as Marten doesn't know, no one else ever will! That's why she didn't tell him about it the next morning - she's covering her bases!
...and being a good friend at the same time. Two for the price of one.
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