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Bickering about bicycles, now with occasional tips about motorised vehicles
pwhodges:
--- Quote from: GarandMarine on 13 Jul 2014, 08:16 ---I really hate talking to aggressive cyclists who are trying to convert the flock.
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Well indeed, so do I; just as I hate talking to aggressive motorcyclists or aggressive car drivers.
Akima:
--- Quote from: GarandMarine on 13 Jul 2014, 08:16 ---Sarcasm aside I really hate talking to aggressive cyclists who are trying to convert the flock.
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It's a funny thing about people who care passionately about something, are deeply concerned about legal threats to their right to continue their preferred activity, are irritated by misrepresentation of them in media, and have *ahem* forceful opinions about people who do not share their interests. We had a thread on one such subject...
--- Quote from: Barmymoo on 13 Jul 2014, 08:53 ---I wouldn't say I'm a cyclist, just that I have a bike and cycle to get places.
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"I'm not one of those feminists, it's just that believe in equality for women!"
This kind of "salami slicing" about cyclists, often based on whether or not we wear LycraŽ for some reason, is irritating. On my commute to/from work, I wear a helmet, cycling clothes, cleated shoes etc. like the "English cyclist"*. On the other hand my bike is nothing like a racing bike, being small-wheeled and fully equipped with lights, reflectors, luggage rack, mudguards, panniers when I'm doing the shopping, and a large saddle-bag, rather like the "Danish cyclist" (though I don't ride distracted). I don't race, time-trial or participate in any cycle-sport. So, am I a cyclist, or do I just have a bike and cycle to get places?
*However I dressed, I would arrive all sweaty and disgusting after riding across hilly Sydney, especially in summer, so it's much better to wear clothes designed for riding, and then shower and change into "normal clothes" at work. Not everyone is as lucky as I am in my workplace, so the terrain and climate here are a definite barrier to cycle-commuting.
GarandMarine:
--- Quote from: Akima on 13 Jul 2014, 16:21 ---
--- Quote from: GarandMarine on 13 Jul 2014, 08:16 ---Sarcasm aside I really hate talking to aggressive cyclists who are trying to convert the flock.
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It's a funny thing about people who care passionately about something, are deeply concerned about legal threats to their right to continue their preferred activity, are irritated by misrepresentation of them in media, and have *ahem* forceful opinions about people who do not share their interests. We had a thread on one such subject...
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Yes but I won't call you terrible names if you choose not to participate, just if you try and limit my ability to do so*. I'm all for bike lanes and for laws that protect cyclists, I am all for cycle commuting and would do it myself if I lived any where it was vaguely feasible. It does not however make me a bad person for not commuting via bike when my commute is long already and I don't have a spare six hours to dedicate to just getting from A to B.
*and I like to think I don't call names too often.
ev4n:
--- Quote from: LTK on 12 Jul 2014, 08:45 ---Why bikes make smart people say dumb things. An interesting examination of Americans' irrational biases against bikes and cyclists.
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Excellent article. I'm glad it was about the bikesnobnyc interaction.
Thanks for sharing.
ev4n:
--- Quote from: GarandMarine on 13 Jul 2014, 08:16 ---Sadly we can't all be urban types and actually have to go places in a quick and timely manner.
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I'll admit, I bike commute a lot more in the summers now that I'm in a position where it does not cost me any time over mass transit/car commuting.
Also, I live in the country, and when I say I bike commute a lot, I drive 2/3 or more of the way to work, then bike through the urban component, along a riverside bike path.
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