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Bickering about bicycles, now with occasional tips about motorised vehicles

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GarandMarine:
and if you have that option, that's wonderful for you. Please enjoy with my compliments.

Barmymoo:
I don't mean that I object to the word cyclist or have an image of what it means that doesn't apply to me, just that I don't say to people "I'm a cyclist" in the same way that I used to say "I'm a runner" - do people say "I'm a driver" or do they say "I drive to work"? For me it's just one of the many ways I get around, and something I quite enjoy doing but don't do competitively or purely for enjoyment. Like I wouldn't say "I'm an eater" even though I eat because I need to and I generally enjoy it.

LTK:
Yet you need a license to be a driver.

Carl-E:
I used to bike-commute to the local campus when I taught there.  4.5 miles each way, through a town that is distinctly bicycle un-friendly.  I managed to find a relatively flat course through town (we have SF nob-hill type streets around here), but one thing that always amazed me was the way drivers reacted when passing me. 

Now, I'm not skinny, and my bike's a 30 year old 12 speed tourer, but I don't really need a whole lane to myself either.  I appreciate the 3 - 5 feet that most drivers give me, veering around me a bit as I try to keep to the gutter without falling into the drain grates. 

But every once in a while, someone feels the need to give me 10 - 12 feet or more, veering completely into the oncoming lane.  And yes, someone got hit once and tried to blame me.  It's the same mentality as those who stop at an intersection with no stop sign, motioning the people with a stop sign on, like it was a 4-way stop.  There's one of those in front of our house, and the result is an occasional rear-ending.  Worse, someone got t-boned when they accepted the other driver's offer, but the car going the opposite way had no intention of stopping without a stop sign. 

Excessive politeness can be a hazard... usually only when mixed with stupidity, though. 

cesium133:

--- Quote from: Carl-E on 14 Jul 2014, 08:57 --- It's the same mentality as those who stop at an intersection with no stop sign, motioning the people with a stop sign on, like it was a 4-way stop.  There's one of those in front of our house, and the result is an occasional rear-ending.  Worse, someone got t-boned when they accepted the other driver's offer, but the car going the opposite way had no intention of stopping without a stop sign. 

Excessive politeness can be a hazard... usually only when mixed with stupidity, though.

--- End quote ---
Here I've seen the opposite problem. 4-way stops are so common here that I have to be extra-careful at intersections that aren't 4-way stops, because people will assume that the fact that they have a stop sign means that I have a stop sign as well.

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