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WCDT 14-18 February 2011 (1861-1865)

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Kugai:
Marten shoulda started out slowly to get back into the swing of things


A day at the park would have been a good start.

tomart:

--- Quote from: kent_eh on 14 Feb 2011, 06:56 ---<internal_voice> Keep out of this thread.. Don't reply.. Just lurk.. Shut up.. Noooo...</internal_voice>
There's the problem.
Most of us guys suck horribly at reading signals from the ladies. Or even noticing.
Many's the time I have been told (later) that I was being a creep.
And an equal number of times I have found out later "dude, why didn't you go talk to that girl? She was totally coming on to you."
In both types of situation I was all "huh.. who.. What??"  
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THIS!     QFT.
I have been HORRIBLE at this, most of my life, so I've given up on women, I can't read your minds, your signals, what you want or don't want...  Most of your responses presume the looker knows what's appropriate and thus you feel ENTITLED to resent anyone doing anything that makes you uncomfortable.  But appropriateness VARIES wildly between situations, neighborhoods, groups, countries, etc, and some of us avoid people because of this unfair drama.

Carl-E:
Takes scads of practice. 

So stop avoiding people.  And try and find a tutor, since you're coming late to the game.  It's like adding a course mid-semester - you've got a lot of catching up to do, but it's not impossible! 

[/dearabby]

Akima:

--- Quote from: Napoleon_Blownapart on 14 Feb 2011, 00:32 ---How do you feel about the ethical implications of this line: "If women don't like the way men behave, there is something intrinsically wrong about the male behaviour in question and said behavoiour must be stopped, punished and banned."
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What I think, is that it depends on the behaviour. Some ways in which some men behave that women dislike, are also shunned by ethical men, and banned and (ideally) punished in all civilised societies. Rape would be an obvious example. Some behaviours are merely sleazy and obnoxious, not rising to the level of formal sanctions (at least in a bar; the same behaviour in a workplace might well be viewed differently), but certainly quite enough for me to categorise men who engage in them as ones to avoid. Some are merely tiresome and dismissed with a sigh. Some insults are so routine as to be barely noticed, kind of like air-pollution.


--- Quote from: Antario on 14 Feb 2011, 04:38 ---Society would be so much more pleasant if people had thickers skins and wouldnt get their panties in a twist every time somebody 'offends'  them as offence is always taken, not given
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More pleasant for whom? Certainly more pleasant for those who find it too much trouble to care about other peoples' feelings or self-respect. According to you, when I "took" offense at the truck-driver who called me a "fucking gook" on the street a few weeks ago, the only problem was that I'm thin-skinned? Thank you for your support...


--- Quote from: J on 14 Feb 2011, 03:25 ---the thing is that most men learn somewhere along the way that with only a few exceptions, no one in the world cares what they think or how they feel. accepting this fact is part of becoming an man, and acting otherwise is childish/unmanly. therefor, we are disinclined to complain if someone is doing something that bothers us, and do our best to ignore it. because of this, the fact that women appear to expect their feelings to matter to complete strangers can be hard to wrap our heads around. taking said feelings into account and accommodating them can be down right frustrating. trying to do so predicatively is a feat beyond many men.
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I cannot really comment on what men expect from other men, but the idea that men don't expect their feelings to be considered by women is downright laughable. In my experience, if we are insufficiently tactful and considerate of their cotton-candy sensibilities, even in relatively emotionally-neutral places like the office, never mind personal relationships, they give us charming names like "bitch" and "ball-crusher".

The idea that women are some sort of impenetrable mystery is essentially a cop-out. Anyone who decides something is impossible is guaranteed to fail. Women are socialised into different styles of communication from men, but this is hardly a big secret; there are libraries of books out there on the subject. Mostly you just have to pay attention rather than just "tuning us out". In the comic, Marten completely ignored the stink-eye he was being given. She still shouldn't have hit him, but this is a comic.

westrim:
http://www.cracked.com/article_18866_5-reasons-women-are-as-shallow-as-men-according-to-science.html?

http://www.cracked.com/article_18760_6-things-everyone-knows-about-women-that-arent-true.html?

http://www.cracked.com/article_18804_the-6-wrong-questions-men-love-to-ask-about-women.html?

Resistance is futile, just enjoy yourself.

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