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Assumptions and Homophobia
Odin:
--- Quote from: Near Lurker on 22 Feb 2011, 10:46 ---
--- Quote from: Odin on 22 Feb 2011, 10:28 ---There is nothing more nauseating than a Nice Guy™.
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Hey now - I may be a rake, but I'm an honest rake. The Nice Guy wants to have his cake an eat it, too, being both "harmless" and on the market, but being on the market to some women means you're a "threat" to others, and the only way to know which is to "threaten," either overtly or underhandedly. That's life.
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Carl-E already covered it, but we may be talking about completely different things. There is a huge difference between being a confident, interesting guy compared to being a Jerk or a Nice Guy.
For more info on top of Carl-E's link, check out www.the-niceguy.com and realize the full scope of fucked-up-ness we're talking about when we say "Nice Guy".
DSL:
That's sad, all of it.
Odin:
Listen, the US House just passed a measure to cut Planned Parenthood funding by $300 million dollars Friday, there are bigger things to be outraged about.
Armadillo:
--- Quote from: tender on 22 Feb 2011, 12:33 ---
No, more like, "I don't enjoy reading about posters trying to justify their sexist/homophobic/ridiculous thoughts in a comic discussion section." That's all. Joe Blow reacts violently if someone assumes he is gay, Jane Doe makes sure to keep gay people at least an arm's length away, et cetera, et cetera. It's disappointing when tangents like these are left open for posters to discuss, as if those are acceptable opinions. Some ideas are wrong and should be quickly dismissed, allowing the discussion to move on to better things.
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So if you don't agree with someone, the best course of action is not to engage them in a civil attempt to change their viewpoints, but rather to ostracize, ridicule, yell "shut up shut up SHUT UP!" and walk out the door? Going back and forth in an echo chamber doesn't seem like the best way to expand minds and diversify viewpoints. I would also posit that there are no such things as "unacceptable opinions," no matter how personally offensive they may be to you or me.
As to the point about "taking offense at being assumed gay = homophobia," I ask of any gay/lesbian readers in this room: do you get a tinge of uncomfortability/anger if somebody assumes you to be straight?
tbones:
--- Quote from: Armadillo on 22 Feb 2011, 12:46 ---So if you don't agree with someone, the best course of action is not to engage them in a civil attempt to change their viewpoints, but rather to ostracize, ridicule, yell "shut up shut up SHUT UP!" and walk out the door?
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Sorry to barge in but...
What? When in Tender's post did you read that the best course of action is to " ostracize, ridicule, yell "shut up shut up SHUT UP!" and walk out the door? "??
Tender only said that homophobia is wrong. And i agree with him/her, if you have some personal choices that don't go along with homosexuality, that's your bussiness, but that doesn't mean you can discriminate people because of their sexual orientation.
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