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What is Faye's fundamental character?
TRVA123:
At least Faye didn't lead Marten on. She told him in their first conversation that she didn't want to date him. She wanted to be friends.
Faye could have dated Marten, knowing full well that she wasn't ready for a relationship, and been in a miserable, toxic, relationship. (making both of them miserable, esp since she wasnt' ready to talk to anyone, including Marten, about the underlying causes for her defensive emotional distance.)
She even denied her own attraction to Marten (at least that's what I read in the comic, this might be speculation on my part). She liked him, he liked her, she knew that she wasn't in an emotionally healthy place for dating.
She should have had "the talk" with Marten a lot sooner. a LOT sooner. but it might have been too painful for her to talk about.
Carl-E:
Isn't "enabler" a term used for someone who enables another to continue living the way they have been living? That is, continuing with the bad decisions that made their life what it is? Usually it's used for the people around (for example) and alcoholic, who take care of the parts of the alcoholic's life that the alcoholic can't deal with - thus enabling him/her to continue in their alcoholism.
Or whatever the problem is that the person has...
in this case, Faye is un-enabling Dora to continue living in the denial that destroyed her relationship with Marten, and possibly with others. Really, what she's doing is quite the opposite of enabling.
Marten, on the other hand, by trying to smooth things over, or walking on eggshells or whatever he did to stay with Dora? That was classic enabling.
TheBiscuit:
--- Quote from: TRVA123 on 05 Sep 2011, 01:23 ---At least Faye didn't lead Marten on. She told him in their first conversation that she didn't want to date him.
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This is true, I can't blame her for Marten's hopeless attraction. However she did take advantage of that attraction in a lot of ways.
--- Quote from: LoliBot on 04 Sep 2011, 23:00 ---So far, I don't like her as much as I remember liking her in the beginning. I don't think I had much of an opinion of her then, but it seems to me now that she goes back and forth between being semi-hateful (She seems to not like anyone who isn't like her and judges them for not being like her) and really friendly/in need of a friend. What Jeph uses for her sense of humor just ends up rubbing me the wrong way. I'm all about treating people with kindness, even when they don't seem like they deserve it. She kinda goes out of her way to say negative things about people for the sake of humor.
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With the difference that I remember liking her the first time I read QC from the begining, this is how my perceptions have changed too. The first time I read it my perceptions of her were coloured by the belief that she and Marten would eventually get together as a couple. Knowing that they do not and will not changes a lot.
What I once perceived as flirting and as the natural progression of a relationship I now see as Faye cynically taking advantage of Marten's attraction for her. She knows damn well he wouldn't go out of his way for her if he didn't have a crush. She also knew from the start that she wouldn't entertain a relationship with him.
Of course she never had entirely straightforward feelings about the possibility of that relationship either. When she found out that Dora and Marten had started dating, she was still angry with Dora for 'stealing' Marten even though she had no intention of claiming him for herself. I guess she just didn't want to lose exclusive rights to her toy.
DSL:
The Peach is more of a disabler. Even without the coffee shop's inexplicable cutlery.
Carl-E:
--- Quote from: DSL on 05 Sep 2011, 08:28 ---...Even without the coffee shop's inexplicable cutlery.
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Your thinking disemboweler.
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