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What is Faye's fundamental character?
Mr. Doctor:
--- Quote from: pwhodges on 05 Sep 2011, 00:09 ---It's rather simple, really: people are different!
Your own feelings make a very poor predictor of how other people may feel or act.
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Sadly, some people can't grasp that obvious fact.
Is it cold in here?:
309 and 41 are, if not leading Marten on, arguably outside the range of normal flirting.
Faye said she "deserved" Dora's criticism in 511 of her for stringing Marten along.
I accept that this was the result of her psychological problems rather than bad character, but as Faye said in 567, "... that doesn't mean I'm exempt from the consequences".
Random Al Yousir:
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We have those obscure dialects of girlese in the German language, too.
Actually, I can't imagine a living language that's missing these dialects (Maybe "missing" is the wrong word).
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That's just playful fayesque malevolence. Come on guys, be reasonable: She didn't even threaten to mutilate him. 8-)
Skewbrow:
Some isolated thoughts:
* 1. We don't have an exact timeline, but from some comments by Faye: "She knew hardly anyone in town" + "She moved up North shortly after the hospital visit" we might infer that in the earliest strips Faye was more or less fresh out of therapy. She was very much feeling her way around, and much more vulnerable than her tough girl front might lead us to believe.
* 2. On a couple of occasions she tried to push Marten/Dora into each others arms. Admittedly that usually happened in a manner that could be interpreted as a joke. Anyway, she was obviously aware of Marten's budding feelings, and may have wanted to redirect them.
* 3. For a long time she was genuinely undecided about whether she can date A) anyone, B) Marten. The incidents on the previous item happened when the eventual 'No'-side was winning. At the times when 'May be' was winning, she was dodging any queries with non-commital noises.
* 4. Marten was mostly very gentlemanly, but when he got Faye a new pair of glasses from the company health care, I think that was a bit thoughtless. He really shouldn't have put Faye in the spot like that.
* 5. May be Jeph was milking everything out of the "will they or won't they" -dynamics during the early centuries? Seems to have worked for him, but as many a soap opera depends on such a pairing, it may have felt like a risk to give up on it. That may be one of the reasons that a resolution took a bit longer than some fans might have wanted. Anyway, the lead up to The Talk: MartyMom visiting. Faye realizing that awkwardness will ensue, unless they have a resolution. Faye gaining enough trust on her friends and mustering up the courage to open up about her past, was very well done IMVHO.
* 6. Faye, Marten and their friendship have grown immensely over the years. If the recent drunken pass/owls -incident had taken place well before the Talk? Well, many tears would have been shed (not forgetting more bruises), they might no longer be friends, et cetera. But now it was downplayed very smoothly.
* 7. When trying to decide how I feel about the members of the cast (ok, I luv 'em all) I tend to give less weight to what they say as punch lines. I don't know, if this makes sense? The punchlines are often obvious exaggerations. So perhaps I treat those a bit like what people might say when drunk?
Does this really say anything about Faye's fundamental character? We may say that she took advantage of Marten's affection early on. I guess I'm trying to say that some of that was "accidental" and, upon realizing that that's how it would look like to an outsider, she tried to remedy the situation, but A) was somewhat undecided about what she wanted from Marten B) lacked the courage to clear the fog. Not impeccable behavior, but not a deadly sin either.
questionablecontentfan:
--- Quote from: Mr. Doctor on 05 Sep 2011, 11:55 ---
--- Quote from: pwhodges on 05 Sep 2011, 00:09 ---It's rather simple, really: people are different!
Your own feelings make a very poor predictor of how other people may feel or act.
--- End quote ---
Sadly, some people can't grasp that obvious fact.
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Thanks. That's incredibly sweet.
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