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WCDT 25-29 Apr 2011 (1911-1915)
Odin:
--- Quote from: The Seldom Killer on 27 Apr 2011, 05:28 ---Frankly disappointed in today's comic. Seriously, three educated, intelligent people don't know how to lift a sofa down some stairs.
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Were they trying to go up the stairs or down the stairs?
Either way, none of the people involved are all that educated. Has QC even bothered covering the educational background of Dora and Sven? Dora doesn't have to have a degree to own a coffee shop and Faye is a damn barista that does not attend college in her off time working on any sort of degree, so she is not educated either. And Sven, well, he maybe has a degree in music production/theory or something since he has people trying to intern with him, but that isn't exactly applicable to moving furniture.
As for intelligence, well, the antics up until now in the comics should discredit that notion far enough that today's fucking around trying to move a couch wouldn't be that huge a departure from the norm.
--- Quote from: WaffleIron on 27 Apr 2011, 05:38 ---
--- Quote from: Odin on 27 Apr 2011, 04:59 ---blah, blah, Marten is actually a shitty person, blah
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One of the defining features of your so-called "nice guy" is that everything they do, however altruistic it may seem, is actually driven by selfishness. I have seen nothing of that in Marten. He's almost always looked out for his friends even when there was nothing in it for him.
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That is actually a more recent development (and only really in his relationships with Hannelore, Marigold and people-other-than-Faye-and-Dora), his early history in the comic was very much driven by selfishness, though.
--- Quote ---I saw Marten's comment as mostly a sarcastic dig at Faye. But even if he is bothered whether Dora's seeing someone else that doesn't mean he's fucked in the head. They just broke up. It takes to move on. He has clearly gone a fair way but it's not surprising if he still has feelings for her.
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They broke up two months ago, QC-time, after dating and living together for a grand total of 6 months QC-time. :psyduck:
--- Quote ---I think Faye was actually a bit rude in her response. Marten had gone to COD to see Dora in person, so he clearly wasn't chickening out. He would have been out of line to tag along with Faye when she went to help Dora move. Why shouldn't he ask Faye to pass on a small greeting?
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The point was that he shouldn't be involving Faye at all in the post-breakup nonsense with Dora, which is correct (if a bit hypocritical given how much whining Faye did after things went tits-up with Sven).
--- Quote ---I wonder if Faye will mention anything to Dora in the next few comics.
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Why would she? I mean honestly, what would be the point in doing that when Faye has her own issues to work on without getting involved in the problems Dora and Marten have with each other?
Mr_Rose:
Dora has a business-related degree of some sort, Sven has an intern he met at an alumnus benefit and Faye quit college half-way through a fine arts degree mostly specialising in metal sculpture, which is applicable to furniture moving because have you ever tried to install a large steel objet d'art? Worse than sofas man. Even when you've got a loading dock and a clear pathway.
IlGreven:
--- Quote from: ysth on 27 Apr 2011, 01:36 ---1997?
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"1997 was an American pop/rock band from Chicago, Illinois, who formed in October 2005. They released three albums between 2007 and 2009, but broke up the following year."
It's either that, or Sven's HS class.
The Seldom Killer:
--- Quote from: Odin on 27 Apr 2011, 05:43 ---Either way, none of the people involved are all that educated. Has QC even bothered covering the educational background of Dora and Sven? Dora doesn't have to have a degree to own a coffee shop and Faye is a damn barista that does not attend college in her off time working on any sort of degree, so she is not educated either. And Sven, well, he maybe has a degree in music production/theory or something since he has people trying to intern with him, but that isn't exactly applicable to moving furniture.
As for intelligence, well, the antics up until now in the comics should discredit that notion far enough that today's fucking around trying to move a couch wouldn't be that huge a departure from the norm.
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The QC wiki lists the educational background of all three characters. All three attended college, Faye dropped out owing to a psychological breakdown but prior to that was a straight A student. Not sure what the term elsewhere in the world would cover but in Secondary/High School level education. Certainly it's a lot more than I ever did. Well I did attend College, but failed all of my A-levels outright. As for intelligence, whilst the characters aren't averse to silliness and other mischievy, they have all at some point engaged in some discussion that requires an above average level of intelligence to participate. Perhaps it's one of those perspective things, were they real people, I would class just about all of the characters in QC as more intelligent than me, therefore ,educated and intelligent. Still, having worked in removals for some time in the past, I can assure you that education and average intelligence are not industry requisites. Moving furniture really only requires that the application of a small amount of logic and rationale.
Also, regards upthread, I have read Dirk Gently and although a good running joke in the book, sofa's inextricably stuck in stairwells is less likely than Schroedinger's cat being both alive and dead when the box is opened.
WaffleIron:
--- Quote from: Odin on 27 Apr 2011, 05:43 ---Were they trying to go up the stairs or down the stairs?
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I still haven't figured that out. Up makes more sense since they're stuck on the corner and if they were going down they'd be past it already. But Why would Dora be going backwards from the rear end?
Still, I didn't think it took a degree to move furniture. Have none of them played tetris?
--- Quote ---That is actually a more recent development (and only really in his relationships with Hannelore, Marigold and people-other-than-Faye-and-Dora), his early history in the comic was very much driven by selfishness, though.
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Only in the very early comics. And i put the change more down to Jeph finding Marten's character rather than his character actually changing.
--- Quote ---They broke up two months ago, QC-time, after dating and living together for a grand total of 6 months QC-time. :psyduck:
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I didn't know the timeline, but it sure feels like they were dating longer than that and broke up more recently than that. In any case, everyone is different. I do not think that 2 months equals fucked up territory.
--- Quote ---The point was that he shouldn't be involving Faye at all in the post-breakup nonsense with Dora, which is correct (if a bit hypocritical given how much whining Faye did after things went tits-up with Sven).
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Why not? Faye's his friend. Fayes Dora's friend. This isn't some bitter spat, he's just wanting to know that Dora's doing OK
--- Quote ---Why would she? I mean honestly, what would be the point in doing that when Faye has her own issues to work on without getting involved in the problems Dora and Marten have with each other?
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Once again, because she's their friend, and she presumably knows that Dora would be interested.
What exactly do friends do if not get involved in each others lives?
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