Comic Discussion > QUESTIONABLE CONTENT
WCDT 25-29 Apr 2011 (1911-1915)
TheEvilDog:
'Eh, just call me Evil, less of a mouthful.
Kugai:
--- Quote from: TheEvilDog on 30 Apr 2011, 16:53 ---'Eh, just call me Evil, less of a mouthful.
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Better than "Yo Dog" huh? :D ;)
Method of Madness:
--- Quote from: Kugai on 30 Apr 2011, 17:01 ---
--- Quote from: TheEvilDog on 30 Apr 2011, 16:53 ---'Eh, just call me Evil, less of a mouthful.
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Better than "Yo Dog" huh? :D ;)
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I heard you like evil dogs, so I put an evil in your dog so you can post while you post.
est:
--- Quote from: Mr_Rose on 29 Apr 2011, 04:28 ---On the topic of hangups and revelation; so when Dora flashed Marten, in a public place no less, and Raven took her top off to get Sven's attention, also in a public place, that was what?
And now, Tai, who has a crush and severe impulse control issues, does exactly what her crush just did (classic "I wanna be just like them" behaviour) then remembers they aren't alone and tries to cover her error by taking it too far (which she has done many times before) she's a "stereotypical lesbian horndog?"
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This is the viewpoint I agree with in this argument. Why are people so quick to jump to the conclusion that nudity is about sex?
LoveJaneAusten:
--- Quote from: Emperor Norton on 30 Apr 2011, 13:10 ---The idea that because a stereotype exists, no character in fiction can be that way EVEN WHEN PEOPLE LIKE THAT IN REAL LIFE EXIST and EVEN WHEN THE WORK HAS SHOWN OTHERS OF THAT GROUP NOT FITTING THE STEREOTYPE is absurd.
That's like saying I can't use my friend Israel as a inspiration for a gay man in something I write, just because he happens to match the very effeminate stereotype of a gay man wearing a boa and short shorts. People like this exist. Therefore, characters like this should be allowed in fiction AS LONG AS THEY ARE NOT USED IN A DEMEANING WAY.
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Agreed. It’s a good thing no one made that argument.
--- Quote ---Tai is not being used in a demeaning way. Stop acting like its awful for a character who is entirely believable to exist solely because they manage to match a stereotype.
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Actually she is. You may not see it, but stereotypes are demeaning.
--- Quote from: pwhodges on 30 Apr 2011, 14:05 ---Yes, I get myself to think through an argument and look for holes in it! Or others kindly point the holes out for me...
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I see. I hope I’ve been able to clarify whether you’d tell a lesbian irl to stop doing something!
--- Quote from: nash076 on 30 Apr 2011, 15:07 ---I figure there are good intentions here, but it's a matter of "know your audience."
Folks on a forum for a webcomic aren't here to be informed how very *wrong* they are.
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I’m sure you’re right. On the other hand, I did not know that agreeing with someone pointing out how Tai fulfills lesbian stereotypes would be so controversial!
--- Quote from: tender on 30 Apr 2011, 15:26 ---I confess, I dropped a word from the last sentence I quoted. At face value, would you actually have a problem with that last bit? I hope not! You see, you added "cliché" to the end of the last sentence. This quirky, uninhibited, fun-loving lesbian shares some facets of behavior you see as cliché, and suddenly everything's terrible. Or is being a quirky, uninhibited, fun-loving lesbian a cliché in itself, something that shouldn't be used? This ties in with what E. Norton wrote, so I'll leave it at that.
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Well, since E. Norton was wrong, as I stated earlier, I’m happy to leave it at that, too.
--- Quote ---Thank you for answering a question I asked. In a nutshell: Tai is hypersexualized and uninhibited character, and you have a problem with this because her actions don't get called into question or critiqued. To save yourself from being contradictory: In your eyes, do all hypersexualized and uninhibited characters have to be called into question, or do only the lesbian characters have to worry about this?
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This is a fair question. The answer is no, not everyone who is hypersexualized is necessarily a stereotype and therefore doesn’t have to be analyzed with this lens. However, seeing as there is a common negative stereotype of lesbians and gays in particular as sex-obsessed, it makes sense to pay attention to how they are portrayed.
--- Quote from: est on 30 Apr 2011, 18:29 ---This is the viewpoint I agree with in this argument. Why are people so quick to jump to the conclusion that nudity is about sex?
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That's a pretty obtuse viewpoint, since it ignores basically all the characterization of Tai so far.
--- Quote from: TheEvilDog on 30 Apr 2011, 16:02 ---If this keeps going around in anymore circles we might be able to offer Formula 1 a new circuit.
This "discussion" just keeps going around and around and around and around and around and around and someone look out coz you're about to see my lunch!
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I agree very much. By now I’ve repeated myself enough for anyone who could or wanted to understand. I think I’ll stop here, seeing as I’ve made my point sufficiently clear. Thanks for the mostly mature discussion, everyone!
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