Comic Discussion > QUESTIONABLE CONTENT
WCDT: 23-27 May 2011 (1931-1935)
IlGreven:
DAMMIT, JIM, I'M A COFFEE SHOP OWNER, NOT A DIPLOMAT!
LQ:
--- Quote from: J. Jacques ---Cue 100 angry coffee roasters decrying Dora's storage methods
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In Seattle, pretty much the best coffee roaster in town is Espresso Vivace - They keep their beans in plastic storage bins.
themacnut:
I'm sorry, but I can't see Dora leaving Marten a business she built from the ground up in a divorce, not with the divorce process being as adversarial as it is today, along with Marten being as passive as he is, and Dora as assertive as she is. She and her lawyer would swipe the business right out from under Marten and leave him out in the street paying her alimony.
The way Jim talks about his divorce, he's probably lucky that he still has tSB after the dust settled-he probably had to give up a lot to keep it-like their marital home possibly. No way was his divorce as cordial as Marten and Dora's would have to be for her to leave Marten her business.
rje:
--- Quote from: Emperor Norton on 26 May 2011, 23:38 ---I just think we should treat people as individuals and attempt to communicate and understand them from the perspective of who they are as a person. That includes some people learning to occasionally try to read clues more, and some people maybe having to occasionally speak out more directly. Misunderstandings will happen, but it will always happen because we are humans and nothing will ever be communicated perfectly anyway.
Point is, why do we need to turn this into a gender war. I mean, just by having a gender I've already been accused of certain things in this thread, so why should I listen to the people who accusing me at all? Same goes for both sides.
Making the idea of communication about genders, instead of about INDIVIDUALS (because I've met people on either end of the spectrum both men and women) it turns into a clusterfuck of everyone yelling over each other.
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Exactly right.
for example in a past relationship (me female he male) I was forthright in what I wanted, what I needed and what I felt. It backfired horribly. I almost -had- to play cutesy cutesy passive-aggressive games, otherwise I'd be uncaring, callous and making him feel guilty (I usually got that when he did something that upset / hurt me and I went right up to him and said 'That thing you did upset / hurt me. Let's discuss it so I can get over it.' Well shit I guess I should have had a rageface on all day and given him the silent treatment. Would have been so much better.)
And he NEVER just came out with what he felt/thought, and never ever just said what was on his mind, he always made me jump through hoops to guess, and would get pissy with me when I ignored his obvious signals (out of spite I admit - if he's not going to say 'I'm mad at you' and just say 'I'm fine' when I ask, he don't get no satisfaction) Sufficed to say, communication took about 10xs longer than it needed to and was just a ball of fun all the time. And it had nothing to do with our genders but who he is and who I am. So. Yea. :mrgreen: It's not everybody, it's just some of who you've happened to meet. Meet more!
Tiogyr:
--- Quote from: themacnut on 27 May 2011, 01:40 ---I'm sorry, but I can't see Dora leaving Marten a business she built from the ground up in a divorce, not with the divorce process being as adversarial as it is today, along with Marten being as passive as he is, and Dora as assertive as she is. She and her lawyer would swipe the business right out from under Marten and leave him out in the street paying her alimony.
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As much griping as Dora has done in the past about running the place, what makes you think she wouldn't dump it on Marten in a divorce as the ultimate punishment on a guy that already has a habit of needlessly punishing himself when he thinks he has a responsibility to take care of something?
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