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WCDT: 23-27 May 2011 (1931-1935)
Tova:
Can we all just agree that communication is good, mmmmkay? :)
themacnut:
--- Quote from: Tiogyr on 27 May 2011, 03:46 ---
--- Quote from: themacnut on 27 May 2011, 01:40 ---I'm sorry, but I can't see Dora leaving Marten a business she built from the ground up in a divorce, not with the divorce process being as adversarial as it is today, along with Marten being as passive as he is, and Dora as assertive as she is. She and her lawyer would swipe the business right out from under Marten and leave him out in the street paying her alimony.
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As much griping as Dora has done in the past about running the place, what makes you think she wouldn't dump it on Marten in a divorce as the ultimate punishment on a guy that already has a habit of needlessly punishing himself when he thinks he has a responsibility to take care of something?
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Not without a FAT cash settlement, methinks. Marten would have to pretty much mortgage his future. Not that I think Dora's normally that vindictive, but as I said before, the divorce process is adversarial and tends to bring out the worst in people, and Marten's the type who'd be taken to the cleaners unless he seriously manned up.
John_Knee:
--- Quote from: Akima on 26 May 2011, 21:59 ---
--- Quote from: eternalluna on 26 May 2011, 19:56 ---Sure, women overall might be more periphrastic in their approach to things than men, but do you know what happens to little girls who ask for things? They get told that they shouldn't by parents and other figures of authority. And women who dare to say they want or don't want something? They get called "bitch" or are subject to a myriad of other negative responses, sometimes violent ones (and I am speaking entirely from my own experience and the experiences of women that I know).
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I'm glad someone else said this, so I didn't have to. It's been eye-rollingly depressing to read the postings in this thread about how men feel entitled to demand that women communicate in a way they claim suits them (but which, in my experience, they never welcome if one actually does it), rather than making any effort themselves. Nearly as depressing as the postings telling us how to dress modestly enough to meet their requirements.
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I think the fundamental issue that men generally get the hump about is when we get blamed for making the wrong decision when the hint given is too subtle. I found out too many times that if my wife says she likes something, then it doesn't mean she actually wants to be bought it as a gift and yet if she wants something (such as for her birthday) then she'll *hint* at that desire by saying she likes something - never that she would like it bought. What I think most men would prefer it if really important things are said more direct so there is no confusion. If the other person (of whatever gender) gives a subtle hint but it isn't spotted, then don't blame me for that.
I've not known women to be condemned for speaking straight and to the point unless they are the sort who pretty much start every sentence with "I want.... I want.... I want..." but most of those women that I know who are like that tend to the high maintenance females who are good looking enough to easily find another boyfriend if they don't get what they demand.
azurefirem:
Theory: Jim turns out to be a sober, AA'd Jimbo.
Unlikely, but maybe he's working on a romance novel and is the owner of TSB as well :D
John_Knee:
--- Quote from: themacnut on 27 May 2011, 04:31 ---
--- Quote from: Tiogyr on 27 May 2011, 03:46 ---
--- Quote from: themacnut on 27 May 2011, 01:40 ---I'm sorry, but I can't see Dora leaving Marten a business she built from the ground up in a divorce, not with the divorce process being as adversarial as it is today, along with Marten being as passive as he is, and Dora as assertive as she is. She and her lawyer would swipe the business right out from under Marten and leave him out in the street paying her alimony.
--- End quote ---
As much griping as Dora has done in the past about running the place, what makes you think she wouldn't dump it on Marten in a divorce as the ultimate punishment on a guy that already has a habit of needlessly punishing himself when he thinks he has a responsibility to take care of something?
--- End quote ---
Not without a FAT cash settlement, methinks. Marten would have to pretty much mortgage his future. Not that I think Dora's normally that vindictive, but as I said before, the divorce process is adversarial and tends to bring out the worst in people, and Marten's the type who'd be taken to the cleaners unless he seriously manned up.
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I have a feeling that if Dora and Martin did marry and then devorce, I suspect Martin's mother would get involved and we know she scares the hell out of Dora. Plus if Hanners decides that Martin is in the right, remember that Hanner's mother could also intervene (which she did before when Martin got food poisioning and bought out and shut down the offending place).
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