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Why does Dora need therapy?
stoutfiles:
--- Quote from: TheEvilDog on 09 Jun 2011, 16:17 ---The problem with Dora was that despite Faye and Marten telling her repeatedly that nothing would ever happen between them, Dora still thought in the back of her mind that Marten wanted Faye, even though that ship sank and became a coral reef by 509.
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"And if, sometime in the future, you happen to be ready for a relationship and I happen to be available..." - Marten
Hell, that quote was in the strip you just linked to! So Marten waited like he always does, and Dora swooped in to get him, but then resented the fact that he liked her friend instead of her at the time. That's not a story I'd want to tell in the future.
"Well, your dad liked my friend and was just waiting for her to be single, so I hit on him and he just went with it like he always does with everything!"
-"So, if the other girl had changed her mind he would have picked her over you?"
"Well, yes I suppose so..."
-"Oh. So you were just second best?"
"Um...."
Or even...
-"Why do you like Daddy?"
"Well, he's nice...and um...he supports me..."
-"So why does Daddy stay home everyday?"
"You know your dad, he never really liked any job that involved a lot of work, so he stays home to take care of you after school."
-"He's said today he's going to start up his band again!"
"Oh really...he didn't look for a job today?"
"No, he said he spent the most of the day at the pastry shop. I think he's going out with Steve tonight, can I go too? He said to ask you for permission!"
--- Quote from: TheEvilDog on 09 Jun 2011, 16:17 ---Where the fuck do people get the idea that alcohol is this all powerful truth serum?
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Because, in most cases, it is an all-powerful truth serum. You say things you think but normally wouldn't say out loud. It also will make you hornier than usual. Combine the two and there are problems.
Rarely ever do we have a character monologue with himself. We don't know for 100% certainty that Marten had moved on completely just because he said so. In the past I thought I was over ex's and then, turns out I wasn't. Now that Faye is in a relationship we won't see Marten do anything but once she becomes single...
--- Quote from: pwhodges on 09 Jun 2011, 16:40 ---
--- Quote from: stoutfiles on 09 Jun 2011, 15:54 ---Alright, so Dora's had a string of bad relationships. Is that really therapy-worthy?
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Do you have experience of bad relationships or therapy?
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No, but I have enough experience to know that almost everyone on Earth would be in therapy if it was determined that failed relationships were needing of it. I don't advocate depression pills or therapy for a failed relationship for the same reason I don't suggest those things if you fall off a bicycle. It happens. It's life. Get back on and keep trying.
iduguphergrave:
--- Quote from: TheEvilDog on 09 Jun 2011, 16:42 ---
--- Quote from: iduguphergrave on 09 Jun 2011, 16:38 ---Murder? Steve's the one who was willing to have drunken gay makeouts with Marten.
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You do realise you linked the exact same comic as me, right? :laugh:
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I'm sorry! I didn't click your link; I assumed it went to the strip where they get the glowing bourbon cause I hadn't thought of the other one until I started typing my post. I'm not a copier, just an idiot :-P
pwhodges:
--- Quote from: stoutfiles on 09 Jun 2011, 16:44 ---
--- Quote ---Do you have experience of bad relationships or therapy?
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No, but I have enough experience to know [...]
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For perspective, can you give us an indication of how much experience is necessary for certainty? Because I've not managed that yet.
Emperor Norton:
--- Quote from: stoutfiles on 09 Jun 2011, 16:44 ---Because, in most cases, it is an all-powerful truth serum. You say things you think but normally wouldn't say out loud. It also will make you hornier than usual. Combine the two and there are problems.
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Bullshit. You don't think clearly when drunk. Yeah, you are more likely to say the things you are thinking, but you are also way more likely to be THINKING THINGS YOU WOULDN'T BE THINKING. I have, enough experience with both myself and other people drinking to know that its not truth that comes out when people are drunk. You are prone to exaggeration, bad jokes, misremembering, and impulsive "thinking with the other head" behavior. I'm not sure how that is "the truth".
stoutfiles:
--- Quote from: Emperor Norton on 09 Jun 2011, 16:51 ---
--- Quote from: stoutfiles on 09 Jun 2011, 16:44 ---Because, in most cases, it is an all-powerful truth serum. You say things you think but normally wouldn't say out loud. It also will make you hornier than usual. Combine the two and there are problems.
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Bullshit. You don't think clearly when drunk. Yeah, you are more likely to say the things you are thinking, but you are also way more likely to be THINKING THINGS YOU WOULDN'T BE THINKING. I have, enough experience with both myself and other people drinking to know that its not truth that comes out when people are drunk. You are prone to exaggeration, bad jokes, misremembering, and impulsive "thinking with the other head" behavior. I'm not sure how that is "the truth".
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Right, you say things that will help your chances with another woman. But angry rants? Those are always thoughts, repressed or not, that you don't just make up. Marten clearly felt what he was saying. He liked her, it didn't workout for him but it worked out for Angus, and he was pissed about it. That wasn't a made-up feeling.
--- Quote from: pwhodges on 09 Jun 2011, 16:50 ---
--- Quote from: stoutfiles on 09 Jun 2011, 16:44 ---
--- Quote ---Do you have experience of bad relationships or therapy?
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No, but I have enough experience to know [...]
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For perspective, can you give us an indication of how much experience is necessary for certainty? Because I've not managed that yet.
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When you're in a relationship good enough to where you look back on past relationships, some of which you thought you'd never get over, and realize why it never worked out and how you're better off for not being with them instead. It's possible without therapy, believe it or not.
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